Low carbing vs Weight watchers

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:16 GMT, gl wrote:

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

Sounds (looks) more like you are trying to start up a cross-group
debate. Sorry but I'm not taking the bait.

It's your body, your science experiment. You state that you have had
success on low-carb--why rock the boat? On the other hand, if you
want to try WW, go ahead, you don't need anybody's permission.

Long term, you will be healthier without the extra weight.

--
TulsaJim
350/302/250 1st goal
Atkins since 07/03/03

I will avoid the cross-post hassles and only respond in WW

If you follow the WW plan at this point, you will need to determine
the points you need to MAINTAIN - that would be APPROXIMATELY 4 (four)
points more per day than the info your wife will receive that is
adjusted for currrent weight and weightLOSS. So for 155, the points
value would probably be 22 (24?? I don't have the chart in front of
me) but that probably would lead to weighloss so you would up that by
4 points. You also have 35 flex points which can supposedly be added
and still encourage weightloss.

If you just take the values in the booklets, you will probably
continue to lose. How this would affect your low-carb adjusted
metabolism would only be a guess but I would guess that as long as you
followed a healthy choice of carbs and overall foods, you should not
gain any weight or not any long term gain.

WW encourages a wide range of foods including carbs and sugars as well
as fats, oils and protein. It just limits your portion size. It you
truly are a carb addict, then reintroducing such foods might be a bad
temptation.

I did not like the restrictions on Atkins after following it 4 years
ago for about 3 months. I found it would not propel me on hikes and
bike rides that started early in the morning. Protein did not provide
the needed umph for me. Just for info, my hikes usually are very
steep, gaining 3-4,000 feet over about 4 miles up. Bike rides about
35-50 miles. And WW has not impaired these activities with a loss of
about 60 pounds.

Good luck.

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (goal)
Start WW: Oct 29, 2002


On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:16 GMT, gl wrote:

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

"gl" wrote in message
...
I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

It's difficult to predict how you will do on WW as everyone is different. I
think as long as you don't consume more calories than you use, you should be
fine on WW.

As for long-term health, there have been no long-term studies done on
low-carbing so I don't think there is a definitive answer on which is
better. If your wife wants you on WW for the convenience, there's really no
harm in trying it. If you find it isn't working for you, then switch back
to low-carbing. However, even on WW be careful with what you eat. You can
probably maintain a lower-than-average carb WOE if you choose your food
wisely.

rona

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No I'm not interested in starting a cross posting war I just thought
there would be some people who weren't so fanatical about their method
of weight control that they would share their opinions without concern
that somebody else who only believes in one method would attack them.
My thoughts are that even if someone replies something that is garbage
about another group then so be it. I definitely am not seeking that
type of input

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:01:14 GMT, TulsaJim
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:16 GMT, gl wrote:

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

Sounds (looks) more like you are trying to start up a cross-group
debate. Sorry but I'm not taking the bait.

It's your body, your science experiment. You state that you have had
success on low-carb--why rock the boat? On the other hand, if you
want to try WW, go ahead, you don't need anybody's permission.

Long term, you will be healthier without the extra weight.

No I'm not interested in starting a cross posting war I just thought
there would be some people who weren't so fanatical about their method
of weight control that they would share their opinions without concern
that somebody else who only believes in one method would attack them.
My thoughts are that even if someone replies something that is garbage
about another group then so be it. I definitely am not seeking that
type of input



On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:01:14 GMT, TulsaJim
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:16 GMT, gl wrote:

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

Sounds (looks) more like you are trying to start up a cross-group
debate. Sorry but I'm not taking the bait.

It's your body, your science experiment. You state that you have had
success on low-carb--why rock the boat? On the other hand, if you
want to try WW, go ahead, you don't need anybody's permission.

Long term, you will be healthier without the extra weight.

I prefer WW - more variety of food allowed. I get sick of low carb after
about two days!

Just my 2 cents.
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"gl" wrote in message
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I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:16 GMT, gl
announced in front of God and everybody:

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

It depends on a number of things -- most importantly, why you chose
low carb initially, how happy you were with it, and what the effect of
a high carb intake is on your body.

Some people find that low-carb works for them because it's an easier
way for them to eat less calories. If that was why it worked for you,
then maintaining your weight on Weight Watchers would be quite
do-able.

Other people, like myself, are severely insulin resistant and calorie
restriction isn't the key to weight loss -- carb restriction is. I
have to eat starvation-level calories on a low-fat diet to lose any
weight at all, and eating even what's considerate a moderate amount of
"good carbs" (fruit, pasta, whole grains) screws up my blood sugar so
horribly that I suffer from mood swings, muscle and joint aches, and
constant fatigue. Weight Watchers wouldn't be an option for me --
unless they have a low-carb alternative these days.

My guess is that if you switched to Weight Watchers you would
initially see either a slight gain due to water retention from the
sudden increase in carbs -- but if you stuck with it, drank a lot of
water and exercised, you'd find you maintain just fine.

As always, it's your body, your science experiment.

Dawn


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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:19:57 GMT, gl wrote:


No I'm not interested in starting a cross posting war I just thought
there would be some people who weren't so fanatical about their method
of weight control that they would share their opinions without concern
that somebody else who only believes in one method would attack them.
My thoughts are that even if someone replies something that is garbage
about another group then so be it. I definitely am not seeking that
type of input

OK, sure you are. Posting to two newsgroups and asking which one is
best? That's what your question boils down to isn't it? "I've lost
this weight doing plan A, but I want to try plan B, I think I'll post
to both groups and see what shakes out."

If you aren't trolling to start up "winless" arguments, then your post
is disingenuous at best.
--
TulsaJim
350/302/250 1st goal
Atkins since 07/03/03

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:16 GMT, gl wrote:

I have now reached my desired weight, not a great loss but about 25
libs. I am down to 155 now and have satbilized for about 3 months but
continue low carbing. I run recreationaly (about 8 miles three to
four times a week plus walk on the other days for about an hour)
My wife is commencing weight watchers and she would like me to follow
it with her. (She tried low carbing but quit shortly after induction
as she likes her carbs) If I do switch and follow it religiously will
I stay at the 155 lbs. or will I put weight back on or lose more
weight. The final question is there any difference in the low carbing
vs weight watchers for long term health. I'm posting this to weight
watchers and low carbing so hopefully some people from both sides can
offer their inisght

This is a loaded question. You are probably trolling.

When you come off low carbing anything might happen. You'll be
changing your metabolism. Try it and tell us. My guess is that you
will gain a few pounds over the first month.

If you go onto WW in maintenance mode then you should stay stable.
Because you adjust the number of points you are allowed month by month
to achieve stability. It's a dynamic process, not a static set of
points. It has to be dynamic because people change over time.

If you believe the newspapers then low-carbing long term isn't good
for your health. I'm not sure what Atkins claims about long-term
results. You probably know better than us if you've been following
that kind of diet for a while.

Ray
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