Meridia/Wellbutrin/Slim-Fast progress

"Dally" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:
"Draebyerg" wrote in message
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I'm a bit interested in your philosophy: you want to lose weight but
don't want to bother doing it by learning how to feed your body
appropriately? Is there something WRONG with eating good foods?

I do want to eat good foods...I keep my fat intake under 10, maybe 15 gram a
day. My other post has details on what I eat, maybe you will find it to be
OK...

"Dally" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:

These are all excuses. Bad ones, at that. Have you considered going to
bed after work (say, around 11 pm) and getting up at 7 am and doing all
sorts of things BEFORE work? That's what I did when I did shift work.
In fact, I work both shifts now and I *still* manage to get my workouts
in and eat healthy. And raise three children.
We've all got 24 hours. It's up to you to choose what to do with them.

Respectfully... I say, fiddlesticks! I decry your suggestion that I should
attempt to get up at 7 AM and try to get my routine things done. 11 PM bed?
I wouldn't even be able to watch the news. People who work 9 to 5 don't even
go to bed that early. Maybe people with nothing to do after 9 PM such as
visiting friends and family. Further, it would be an awfully tiring day,
starting work 7 hours after being awake. 9 to 5'ers don't get up at 2 AM, do
they? People should get up around the time their work day starts, to be most
efficient. Plus, even waking up at 7, the world does start to operate until
9, and banks and shops aren't even open till 10...which leaves me 2-3 hours
to RUSH in a whirlwind to get anything done, if I want to be on time to
work!

Nonsense. Going to work to END one's day is a futile suggestion... I
wouldn't recommend it to anyone!

Mark wrote:

"Dally" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:

These are all excuses. Bad ones, at that. Have you considered going to
bed after work (say, around 11 pm) and getting up at 7 am and doing all
sorts of things BEFORE work? That's what I did when I did shift work.
In fact, I work both shifts now and I *still* manage to get my workouts
in and eat healthy. And raise three children.
We've all got 24 hours. It's up to you to choose what to do with them.


Respectfully... I say, fiddlesticks! I decry your suggestion that I should
attempt to get up at 7 AM and try to get my routine things done. 11 PM bed?
I wouldn't even be able to watch the news. People who work 9 to 5 don't even
go to bed that early. Maybe people with nothing to do after 9 PM such as
visiting friends and family. Further, it would be an awfully tiring day,
starting work 7 hours after being awake. 9 to 5'ers don't get up at 2 AM, do
they? People should get up around the time their work day starts, to be most
efficient. Plus, even waking up at 7, the world does start to operate until
9, and banks and shops aren't even open till 10...which leaves me 2-3 hours
to RUSH in a whirlwind to get anything done, if I want to be on time to
work!

Nonsense. Going to work to END one's day is a futile suggestion... I
wouldn't recommend it to anyone!

Still all excuses.

I work 9 am until 9 pm most days this time of the year. I make healthy
food choices and exercise because I choose to. When you choose to you
will be able to do it. When you don't choose to you won't be able to
fit it in.

My wish for you is to gain some self-awareness.

Dally

Mark wrote:

"Dally" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:

"Draebyerg" wrote in message
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I'm a bit interested in your philosophy: you want to lose weight but
don't want to bother doing it by learning how to feed your body
appropriately? Is there something WRONG with eating good foods?


I do want to eat good foods...I keep my fat intake under 10, maybe 15 gram a
day. My other post has details on what I eat, maybe you will find it to be
OK...

I was really struck by the 600 calorie dinner. Three chicken breasts?!?

My method is to eat smaller meals four or five times a day. It works
for me. You mentioned wanting the sugar rush for "energy" so I suspect
the slimfast isn't working for you as well as you wish - my energy
levels are pretty constant now. I typically eat a 350 calorie
breakfast, a 350 calorie lunch, a 200 calorie snack and a 350-400
calorie dinner. There might be another 200 calorie snack, for a total
of maybe 1300-1500 calories. That's the level of food I need in the
right frequency for me.

But there's one more trick to making it work... I had to get the
macronutrient ratio worked out. I turn out to need about 45% of my
calories from high fiber carbs (brown rice, wholemeal bread, vegetables
and fruits) and about 30% of my calories from lean protein (chicken
breast, fish, protein powder) and about 25% of my calories from fat.

Yes, fat. I saw you mentioning a low-fat mind-set somewhere else. Most
of us have moved away from that. Just like carbs are okay if they're
the RIGHT carbs, fats are okay if they're the RIGHT fats. In fact,
they're essential. No pun intended, but we call the "right" fats
"essential fatty acids." Eat your fats from seeds and nuts and fish -
not saturated fats from animals and not trans-fats from baked goods, but
virgin pressed olive oil and peanutbutter and juicy salmon.

I've been losing fat pretty regularly over the past 18 months - about a
pound a week. This entire time I've been training myself on how to
maintain this fat loss by changing my exercise habits and my eating
habits. This isn't a diet, this is a change in attitude.

I was a bit down on your case in another post saying you're whining
about excuses. I tend to be a bit harsh and I apologize if that isn't
motivating to you. It's just that we hear a lot of people explaining
why they CAN'T make sensible changes. All of us know that you can when
you want to.

Dally

August 03: I then went on Wellbutrin in August of 03, and I was around 172

at the time. I also started Slim-Fast. I went to about 167 while on
Wellby.





Please tell me about the effects of Wellbutrin on weight loss.

I take 150mg twice a day.

Thanks for your help and support.

L8r,

Chuck :-)

Maybe it is because the oatmeal is high in carbs, and carbs cause cravings?
That is kinda weird... what brand of whey do you use??

"JMA" wrote in message news:c3b4fm$25ulul$1@ID-

I've been using flavored whey powder (no sugar) mixed with water (milk
doesn't agree with me) and eating a piece of fruit with it to get some
carbs. I also tried having some in oatmeal with berries but I was
ravenous
within a half hour of eating it. I have no idea why I can be relatively
satisfied with the liquid form but hungry after eating but that's my
problem
to solve.

Jenn

"Mark" wrote:

Nonsense. Going to work to END one's day is a futile suggestion... I
wouldn't recommend it to anyone!

I would!

My husband and I both worked 3 to 11 for 5 years. I got up at 7am, had
breakfast, did housework, prepared our main meal for noonish, quilted as
a hobby and ran errands before going to work. Ate "lunch" brought from
home at 6. Arrived home at 11:20, watched 15 minutes of Letterman,
soaked 10 minutes in the hot tub and slept blissfully till 7. At the
time exercise wasn't a priority, but it would have fit quite easily into
time spent quilting. It was a very easy way to live.

I'm just saying it's not such a radical suggestion. YMMV

--
Walking on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03

"Dally" wrote in message
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Myoplex Lite tastes pretty good - try the Cappacino Ice flavor. I buy
mine at www.vitaglo.com. I don't get it pre-mixed, though, as I'm
capable of adding milk and some ice cubes to a shaker.


Just a quick question and not trying to be difficult or argumentative here.
I was looking at Myoplex lite shakes since I want to find a replacement for
HMR stuff to get rid of the sugar. I've actually been looking at a lot of
products. Anywho - one of the ingredients of the Myoplex lite shakes
(powder or premix) is "corn syrup solids." Is that sugar by another name?

I've been using flavored whey powder (no sugar) mixed with water (milk
doesn't agree with me) and eating a piece of fruit with it to get some
carbs. I also tried having some in oatmeal with berries but I was ravenous
within a half hour of eating it. I have no idea why I can be relatively
satisfied with the liquid form but hungry after eating but that's my problem
to solve.

Jenn

I'm trying some Designer Whey right now, might try the GNC store brand next
week. Not a big selection up here. When I find one I like I'll buy online
in quantity. I'm really biding time until my dr appt. next week since I
have no idea what I'll be doing diet wise until then.

"Perple Gyrl" wrote in message
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Maybe it is because the oatmeal is high in carbs, and carbs cause
cravings?
That is kinda weird... what brand of whey do you use??

"JMA" wrote in message news:c3b4fm$25ulul$1@ID-

I've been using flavored whey powder (no sugar) mixed with water (milk
doesn't agree with me) and eating a piece of fruit with it to get some
carbs. I also tried having some in oatmeal with berries but I was
ravenous
within a half hour of eating it. I have no idea why I can be relatively
satisfied with the liquid form but hungry after eating but that's my
problem
to solve.

Jenn

Mark wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julianne"
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.rx
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:29 AM
Subject: Meridia/Wellbutrin/Slim-Fast progress

If the whole Milk stirring thing really is overburdensome and money is not
an issue, some of the meal replacement supplements like Glucerna and
Ensure
light are pretty good with Sugar.


Hey all, and I'd like to sincerely thank you all for your replies... I
appreciate them very much.

TO JULIANNE, JAYJAY and ALL: I'm inclined to go toward something like Ensure
instead. I'm looking for something in the 200-250 calorie range. My concern
is the amount of fat and carbs in the shakes. I'm wondering what type of
shake that I could have that will give me the satisfaction of Slim Fast and
the caloric energy, without being too high in fat or carbohydrates. There's
a number of different kinds of Ensure products around... What one do you
think would be the best to go with?

I'm a little scared that by giving up the Slim Fast, I'll start putting on
weight.


Only because you seem to have already convinced yourself that you will.
Think positive, it don't cost nuthin'. ;-]


But I guess it's all a marketing ploy, really, right? "Slim Fast" is
just the name...but I could be drinking anything with similar ingredients
and getting similar results, am I not correct?


It's just a matter of reading the labels, then choosing your taste
preference from the more nutritious ones. On a similar note, one
advantage to using the powder is that you choose how much fat you put in
it. I personally use skim milk, but then again, I lost my taste for the
varieties containing fat long ago.

I'm actually up in CANADA, and here we have a brand called Presidents'
Choice,

The store you go to must be in the Albertsons's family. Our local
(Chicago) chain is called Jewel, and also carries the PC brand.

and they a shake called "Ultra". Anyone tried this? It looks high in
calories, but it may be an option if anyone here has had good experiences
with it...

Also, Jayjay's idea of a Myoplex premixed shake might be good too. Is it
alright to get so much calories from protein and not carbs, though? Or will
I be too weak from the lack of sugars, if I go with those?

Or maybe a combination of 1 slim fast, 1 protein (Ensure HP or Myoplex)
might work?

The premixed factor is really important to me...I live in a pretty big city
with a fast lifestyle where I just don't have the time to do anything with a
blender just yet.

You don't really need a blender, just one of those commuter cups with a
leak proof lid. Dump in a cup of milk, rip open a pouch of mix, snap on
the lid and give it a shake as you're walking out the door. As an added
bonus in this lingering cold weather, get the all plastic variety of
commuter cup. That way you can nuke it and have a thick, warm, creamy
cup of chocolate bliss to take the edge off that frosty commute.

Maybe when the sun starts coming up earlier and its
warmer, I'll be more inclined to get up and do those sorts of things, but I
just don't have the time now.

When your health is concerned, it's really important to make the time.
Progress doesn't wait for conveniences' sake.

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Smokey
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