Update on my meeting with La Tiara taco shells manufacturer

Hello all! As promised, I've met with the manufacturer of the taco
shells and have learned a little more concerning the labeling and
analysis.

When I spoke with him initially about this he assured me that the
analysis and labeling that has been on the shells some 20+ years, was
correct. He explained to me that he had just recently had the shells
retested to comply with new labeling laws etc and that the labs came
back with identical carb counts. What he did not realize and I
apparently didn't communicate to him effectively, was how important
the FIBER count was. He thought that being a ‘low CARBer', I was only
interested in the ‘carbs' (he doesn't follow a LCWOE himself). I
thought he understood that I was asking about the entire label and
it's accuracy, but alas…..

So, I met with him this second time and he explained to me about the
labeling and the fiber as follows. He suggested that, as in all areas,
technology has advanced a great deal and we can now more accurately
measure specific areas of nutritional interest. Also, as you know, the
laws have changed a great deal in the past 2 years, not to mention, 20
years! LOL Initially when this labeling was created, the law only
required that one SERVING be tested to determine the nutritional
information for a product. Now, the law has changed and requires 100
GRAMS of a product to determine the same information.

Someone here described the nutritional make up of agricultural
products, using green beans as the example. These are tested in bulk
and the nutritional information averaged. Of course we know that every
green been is a different size and thus each bean has a different
"count" per bean. The same is true for corn, apparently, because all
THREE LABS came back with the SAME information for the total carb
count, but varying information on the fiber. The range was anywhere
from less than 1g fiber to 3g fiber for both the white and yellow
corn. I am not an agricultural specialist, but I am assuming a great
deal has to do with the kind of corn used, the soil it is grown in and
possibly other variables that I am unaware of.

So, the carb count on the label IS CORRECT, but the fiber varies from
one shell to the other from less than 1g of fiber to 3g. A good way to
find the ECC might be to simply average the numbers and figure them at
2g carbs per shell. I think this would give one a good idea of how
many carbs you are taking in AND explain why no one has had any stalls
or trouble with these shells when they were figuring them as 1g or 2g
as the label suggested. Another way is simply to not follow the ECC
procedure and simply go by the total carbs as some prefer to do
anyway.

This brings the count for both our white and yellow corn shells to 4g
total carbs as the original label suggests, which is STILL the lowest
carb taco shell that I know of and thus a fantastic addition to a low
carb way of life. The ingredients for these shells are all natural,
using ONLY certified corn and high quality vegetable shortening to
create a deliciously light and crunchy shell. Not to mention that
EVERYONE who has EVER tried them has RAVED about the light crispy
texture, the versatility and the convenience they add to their low
carb diet.

FYI, new labeling is being created and will hit the market some time
after the first of the year (after the manufacturer's current supply
runs out). I, however, will be changing the nutritional information on
all of my advertising including the nutritional information on my
website http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com

We're in this thing together and I am pleased to lay these doubts to
rest and move ahead, providing the low carb community with excellent
customer service, a commitment to quality and the most DELICIOUS LOW
CARB TACO SHELLS on the web!

Happy Low Carbing
Michele
Integrity Nutritional Services

Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

(Micheleinmo) wrote in message . com...
Hello all! As promised, I've met with the manufacturer of the taco
shells and have learned a little more concerning the labeling and
analysis.

When I spoke with him initially about this he assured me that the
analysis and labeling that has been on the shells some 20+ years, was
correct. He explained to me that he had just recently had the shells
retested to comply with new labeling laws etc and that the labs came
back with identical carb counts. What he did not realize and I
apparently didn't communicate to him effectively, was how important
the FIBER count was. He thought that being a ?low CARBer', I was only
interested in the ?carbs' (he doesn't follow a LCWOE himself). I
thought he understood that I was asking about the entire label and
it's accuracy, but alas?..

So, I met with him this second time and he explained to me about the
labeling and the fiber as follows. He suggested that, as in all areas,
technology has advanced a great deal and we can now more accurately
measure specific areas of nutritional interest. Also, as you know, the
laws have changed a great deal in the past 2 years, not to mention, 20
years! LOL Initially when this labeling was created, the law only
required that one SERVING be tested to determine the nutritional
information for a product. Now, the law has changed and requires 100
GRAMS of a product to determine the same information.

Someone here described the nutritional make up of agricultural
products, using green beans as the example. These are tested in bulk
and the nutritional information averaged. Of course we know that every
green been is a different size and thus each bean has a different
"count" per bean. The same is true for corn, apparently, because all
THREE LABS came back with the SAME information for the total carb
count, but varying information on the fiber. The range was anywhere
from less than 1g fiber to 3g fiber for both the white and yellow
corn. I am not an agricultural specialist, but I am assuming a great
deal has to do with the kind of corn used, the soil it is grown in and
possibly other variables that I am unaware of.

So, the carb count on the label IS CORRECT, but the fiber varies from
one shell to the other from less than 1g of fiber to 3g. A good way to
find the ECC might be to simply average the numbers and figure them at
2g carbs per shell. I think this would give one a good idea of how
many carbs you are taking in AND explain why no one has had any stalls
or trouble with these shells when they were figuring them as 1g or 2g
as the label suggested. Another way is simply to not follow the ECC
procedure and simply go by the total carbs as some prefer to do
anyway.

This brings the count for both our white and yellow corn shells to 4g
total carbs as the original label suggests, which is STILL the lowest
carb taco shell that I know of and thus a fantastic addition to a low
carb way of life. The ingredients for these shells are all natural,
using ONLY certified corn and high quality vegetable shortening to
create a deliciously light and crunchy shell. Not to mention that
EVERYONE who has EVER tried them has RAVED about the light crispy
texture, the versatility and the convenience they add to their low
carb diet.

FYI, new labeling is being created and will hit the market some time
after the first of the year (after the manufacturer's current supply
runs out). I, however, will be changing the nutritional information on
all of my advertising including the nutritional information on my
website http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com

We're in this thing together and I am pleased to lay these doubts to
rest and move ahead, providing the low carb community with excellent
customer service, a commitment to quality and the most DELICIOUS LOW
CARB TACO SHELLS on the web!

Happy Low Carbing
Michele
Integrity Nutritional Services

A "soft shell" is just a tortilla - LC tortillas are available too.

Bon Appetit!
Alex




Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

There are soft corn tortillas along with the flour variety.. Leigh is that
what you mean? I have never seen any low carb soft corn tortillas.. which is
all the crunchy ones are anyway before they are fried..

Teeb

"Alex Johnson" wrote in message
...
A "soft shell" is just a tortilla - LC tortillas are available too.

Bon Appetit!
Alex




Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

Yes, Leigh. They are all hard shell.

Michele


(Leigh) wrote in message . com...
Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

(Micheleinmo) wrote in message . com...
Hello all! As promised, I've met with the manufacturer of the taco
shells and have learned a little more concerning the labeling and
analysis.

When I spoke with him initially about this he assured me that the
analysis and labeling that has been on the shells some 20+ years, was
correct. He explained to me that he had just recently had the shells
retested to comply with new labeling laws etc and that the labs came
back with identical carb counts. What he did not realize and I
apparently didn't communicate to him effectively, was how important
the FIBER count was. He thought that being a ?low CARBer', I was only
interested in the ?carbs' (he doesn't follow a LCWOE himself). I
thought he understood that I was asking about the entire label and
it's accuracy, but alas?..

So, I met with him this second time and he explained to me about the
labeling and the fiber as follows. He suggested that, as in all areas,
technology has advanced a great deal and we can now more accurately
measure specific areas of nutritional interest. Also, as you know, the
laws have changed a great deal in the past 2 years, not to mention, 20
years! LOL Initially when this labeling was created, the law only
required that one SERVING be tested to determine the nutritional
information for a product. Now, the law has changed and requires 100
GRAMS of a product to determine the same information.

Someone here described the nutritional make up of agricultural
products, using green beans as the example. These are tested in bulk
and the nutritional information averaged. Of course we know that every
green been is a different size and thus each bean has a different
"count" per bean. The same is true for corn, apparently, because all
THREE LABS came back with the SAME information for the total carb
count, but varying information on the fiber. The range was anywhere
from less than 1g fiber to 3g fiber for both the white and yellow
corn. I am not an agricultural specialist, but I am assuming a great
deal has to do with the kind of corn used, the soil it is grown in and
possibly other variables that I am unaware of.

So, the carb count on the label IS CORRECT, but the fiber varies from
one shell to the other from less than 1g of fiber to 3g. A good way to
find the ECC might be to simply average the numbers and figure them at
2g carbs per shell. I think this would give one a good idea of how
many carbs you are taking in AND explain why no one has had any stalls
or trouble with these shells when they were figuring them as 1g or 2g
as the label suggested. Another way is simply to not follow the ECC
procedure and simply go by the total carbs as some prefer to do
anyway.

This brings the count for both our white and yellow corn shells to 4g
total carbs as the original label suggests, which is STILL the lowest
carb taco shell that I know of and thus a fantastic addition to a low
carb way of life. The ingredients for these shells are all natural,
using ONLY certified corn and high quality vegetable shortening to
create a deliciously light and crunchy shell. Not to mention that
EVERYONE who has EVER tried them has RAVED about the light crispy
texture, the versatility and the convenience they add to their low
carb diet.

FYI, new labeling is being created and will hit the market some time
after the first of the year (after the manufacturer's current supply
runs out). I, however, will be changing the nutritional information on
all of my advertising including the nutritional information on my
website http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com

We're in this thing together and I am pleased to lay these doubts to
rest and move ahead, providing the low carb community with excellent
customer service, a commitment to quality and the most DELICIOUS LOW
CARB TACO SHELLS on the web!

Happy Low Carbing
Michele
Integrity Nutritional Services

What I'm looking for is a tortilla you can wrap stuff in. I don't
particularly care what they are made of. I guess I've been to Taco
Bell too many times where they ask you if you want a hard or soft
shell taco. G

Leigh

"Teeb" wrote in message ...
There are soft corn tortillas along with the flour variety.. Leigh is that
what you mean? I have never seen any low carb soft corn tortillas.. which is
all the crunchy ones are anyway before they are fried..

Teeb

"Alex Johnson" wrote in message
...
A "soft shell" is just a tortilla - LC tortillas are available too.

Bon Appetit!
Alex




Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

LOL.. ok.. soft tortillas made by La Tortilla.. small ones are 3 net carbs
each.. large ones are 5.. I use large ones because I just load one up and
eat them.. the small ones are SMALL and you will probably end up eating 2 or
3 as they don't hold all that much very easily. They are pretty easy to find
in health food and whole foods type stores and also many major grocery
chains carry them now.. Albertson's i sone I know of for sure.

Teeb

"Leigh" wrote in message
om...
What I'm looking for is a tortilla you can wrap stuff in. I don't
particularly care what they are made of. I guess I've been to Taco
Bell too many times where they ask you if you want a hard or soft
shell taco. G

Leigh

"Teeb" wrote in message
...
There are soft corn tortillas along with the flour variety.. Leigh is
that
what you mean? I have never seen any low carb soft corn tortillas..
which is
all the crunchy ones are anyway before they are fried..

Teeb

"Alex Johnson" wrote in message
...
A "soft shell" is just a tortilla - LC tortillas are available too.

Bon Appetit!
Alex




Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more
question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there
are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

(Micheleinmo) wrote in message . com...
Hello all! As promised, I've met with the manufacturer of the taco
shells and have learned a little more concerning the labeling and
analysis.

(sanip)

I really wish you would stop trying to sell these high carb products
here, it's starting to get annoying.....

Thank you, Michele.


(Micheleinmo) wrote in message . com...
Yes, Leigh. They are all hard shell.

Michele


(Leigh) wrote in message . com...
Thanks for checking this out Michele. I only have one more question -
are all of the shells hard shells? I don't find that indicated
specifically anywhere but assume from the testimonials that there are
only hard shell available.

Leigh

(Micheleinmo) wrote in message . com...
Hello all! As promised, I've met with the manufacturer of the taco
shells and have learned a little more concerning the labeling and
analysis.

When I spoke with him initially about this he assured me that the
analysis and labeling that has been on the shells some 20+ years, was
correct. He explained to me that he had just recently had the shells
retested to comply with new labeling laws etc and that the labs came
back with identical carb counts. What he did not realize and I
apparently didn't communicate to him effectively, was how important
the FIBER count was. He thought that being a ?low CARBer', I was only
interested in the ?carbs' (he doesn't follow a LCWOE himself). I
thought he understood that I was asking about the entire label and
it's accuracy, but alas?..

So, I met with him this second time and he explained to me about the
labeling and the fiber as follows. He suggested that, as in all areas,
technology has advanced a great deal and we can now more accurately
measure specific areas of nutritional interest. Also, as you know, the
laws have changed a great deal in the past 2 years, not to mention, 20
years! LOL Initially when this labeling was created, the law only
required that one SERVING be tested to determine the nutritional
information for a product. Now, the law has changed and requires 100
GRAMS of a product to determine the same information.

Someone here described the nutritional make up of agricultural
products, using green beans as the example. These are tested in bulk
and the nutritional information averaged. Of course we know that every
green been is a different size and thus each bean has a different
"count" per bean. The same is true for corn, apparently, because all
THREE LABS came back with the SAME information for the total carb
count, but varying information on the fiber. The range was anywhere
from less than 1g fiber to 3g fiber for both the white and yellow
corn. I am not an agricultural specialist, but I am assuming a great
deal has to do with the kind of corn used, the soil it is grown in and
possibly other variables that I am unaware of.

So, the carb count on the label IS CORRECT, but the fiber varies from
one shell to the other from less than 1g of fiber to 3g. A good way to
find the ECC might be to simply average the numbers and figure them at
2g carbs per shell. I think this would give one a good idea of how
many carbs you are taking in AND explain why no one has had any stalls
or trouble with these shells when they were figuring them as 1g or 2g
as the label suggested. Another way is simply to not follow the ECC
procedure and simply go by the total carbs as some prefer to do
anyway.

This brings the count for both our white and yellow corn shells to 4g
total carbs as the original label suggests, which is STILL the lowest
carb taco shell that I know of and thus a fantastic addition to a low
carb way of life. The ingredients for these shells are all natural,
using ONLY certified corn and high quality vegetable shortening to
create a deliciously light and crunchy shell. Not to mention that
EVERYONE who has EVER tried them has RAVED about the light crispy
texture, the versatility and the convenience they add to their low
carb diet.

FYI, new labeling is being created and will hit the market some time
after the first of the year (after the manufacturer's current supply
runs out). I, however, will be changing the nutritional information on
all of my advertising including the nutritional information on my
website http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com

We're in this thing together and I am pleased to lay these doubts to
rest and move ahead, providing the low carb community with excellent
customer service, a commitment to quality and the most DELICIOUS LOW
CARB TACO SHELLS on the web!

Happy Low Carbing
Michele
Integrity Nutritional Services

You know.. this is probably one of those things that not everyone is ever
going to agree upon.. whether these are *really* all that low carb or not.
In my own personal humble little opinion, it is just one more of those
things that we are going to have to decide upon for ourselves.. they may be
useful to some of us, while they may cause problems for others. I personally
don't like the fact that it does seem they are playing with the numbers, but
again, we are all grown up people here with at least a minimum amount of
intelligence and can see for ourselves they may not be the same size as
*regular store bought* corn tortillas and make our own choices accordingly.
Buyer beware, and all that. You don't have to use them nor do we all have to
keep harping on the subject. And for the record, no I have not tried them as
yet but plan to just to see if I can eat them without causing a stall or
weight gain. Yeah it might be nice if it didn't seem like all someone was
interested in doing was filling their own pockets by *advertising* in the
group. However we all occasionally post links to sites we buy things from..
so what's the big deal. You do know what *block sender* is I hope.

Teeb


"Tom" wrote in message
m...
(Micheleinmo) wrote in message
. com...
Hello all! As promised, I've met with the manufacturer of the taco
shells and have learned a little more concerning the labeling and
analysis.

(sanip)

I really wish you would stop trying to sell these high carb products
here, it's starting to get annoying.....