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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium IceCream
On 1/28/2004 12:01 PM, Ignoramus25969 wrote: In article , Crafting Mom wrote: jmk wrote: I only noticed two things. Firstly, you are not a big fruit eater, are you? He doesn't seem to eat a lot of what is _commonly known as_ a fruit but technically, 6 small tomatoes 115 calories worth are a fruit. I eat a lot of fruit, but people don't see bell peppers, tomatoes, olives or cucumbers, as a fruit, simply because they are lower in fructose :-) I remember that 2 weeks ago, jmk herself educated me that those things are fruit. I also thought they were vegetables. Fortunately, the Supreme court ruled that they were in fact vegetables (for the purposes of customs duties). So I guess, this time jmk is going by the Supreme court. Yeah, that's it! hehe! :-) -- jmk in NC |
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Linda Harms wrote in message . ..
I think it's important for those of us who are trying to change our relationships with food to break the link between sweet-tasting foods and "reward." We need to find better ways to reward ourselves. I have an appointment on February 4th for a one-hour massage. It is my reward for being a good girl regarding both diet and exercise for all of January (so I better not screw up in the next few days!) I told the massage therapist when I made the appointment that she is my replacement for an ice cream sundae. |
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On 28 Jan 2004 16:55:04 GMT, Ignoramus25969
announced in front of God and everybody: At my desk. I work in a cubicle. I pack the fatty/meaty stuff into a 1 pint plastic container. This makes food portioning easy. I just pick whatever tasty stuff we have at home, within reason, and stick as much as I can into that little 1 pint container. Then the vegetables I just carry in a big ziploc bag. So really, you're following the Two Cup Diet. g Dawn |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
In article , ignoramus25969
@NOSPAM.25969.invalid says... So long as you understand that such an approach may also have the effect of causing some people to ignore you. They might think, "That guy's a fanatic, I could never be that strict with myself because [a whole host of reasons, some of which you might find legitimate and others not]." I would not mind if some people decide to ignore me. i It's therefore ironic -- or is it deliberate? -- that your pen name is "Ignore-amus." My 2cents worth -- you have many important things to say, but one must ignore your caustic "tone" in order to benefit from them. Sometimes I'm willing to do that, sometimes not. It's a crap shoot -- just like the rest of life -- all depending on the mood I'm in. -- ************************************ Linda Harms New York, NY Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5 |
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I don't know you well enough to know whether you are being deliberately
disingenuous. I have to assume that you know full well that your issuing absolute edicts frequently irritates people on this newsgroup. *You* never touch a piece of "junk food" (by some unspecified definition) - how nice for you. For most people though, I don't think a scoop of Atkins ice cream here or there - or even a piece of *gasp* real chocolate - is going to cause problems. While I don't agree with his methods, I do whole-heartedly agree with the message. I also fit into the catagory of *NEVER* eating a piece of junk food. I've made a serious change to my lifestyle because of many reasons... numero uno being that I don't feel like dying. I'm not willing to half-ass it and cheat. Nobody NEEDS those cheat foods. Pretend they don't exist. Instead of giving in to temptation of eating a scoop of ice cream... go do some activity that you enjoy... play a video game, masturbate, go play shoot some hoops, draw, whatever. Giving in to your temptations and letting them control you is indicative of a weak mind. Control your own body, don't let it control you. Anyway, that's the part that I think is draconian; it's unnecessary to be so absolute, about diet or anything else. Oh yes, In My Opinion of course. Some might be able to have cheats and snacks. For many others it leads further down the slippery slope that ends with a Big-Mac, Super-sized fry, jumbo coke, and a pint of Ben & Jerry's. It's not even clear to me, what qualilfies as "junk" to you? Clearly products sold in stores like candy bars, ice cream, etc. fall into that category. What about the ice cream I make at home with cream, berries, and splenda? is that "junk"? How about my low-carb pancakes made with protein powder? You don't have to answer these questions, though I am curious. I can tell you right now that even if you deem them "junk" I am not going to stop eating them. There are limits to how many restrictions I can put on my diet if I want a sustainable plan. This is probably true for most people. I think we both qualify "junk" in a similar matter. In addition to the list of candybars, ice cream, etc. and the well-known 'junk'; Any of the "ATKINS" products that are sold including all of the tons and tons of products that we've been seeing popping up as "Low Carb". Eating all of those over-processed products that are specifically made to try and fool you into thinking that what you're eating what you're not supposed to be eating is what I qualify as JUNK. As far as saying that the plan won't be sustainable, I would have to disagree. After a while you get very comfortable with the new way of life. You don't miss the crap. I've even come to a point where I 'bite my thumb' at it. I've 'done atkins' and lost 108lbs then fallen off the wagon. Not because my diet was so strict, but because my mind was too weak. I've come to a point where I've been able to get back on track and it is just as easy as I remember it. |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:48:41 -0500, "DoughBoy"
announced in front of God and everybody: While I don't agree with his methods, I do whole-heartedly agree with the message. I also fit into the catagory of *NEVER* eating a piece of junk food. I've made a serious change to my lifestyle because of many reasons... numero uno being that I don't feel like dying. I'm not willing to half-ass it and cheat. Nobody NEEDS those cheat foods. "Need" is open for interpretation. Do you need "junk foods" -- which I'm taking to mean both processed LC products and foods eaten more for psychological enjoyment than for nutrition -- for optimum health? Of course not. But eating isn't purely about fueling the body. If it were, we'd all eat the same thing at every meal, every day. Food offers pleasure and variety. Food can be fun. It's about balancing the fun and the common sense. Me, my "needs" are different from yours, which are different than other posters'. I need coffee. Every morning. You may argue that I don't literally NEED coffee to survive ... and I would grudgingly agree with that. Semantically, anyway. But on a very basic, fundamental level, I need my freakin' cup o' joe, dammit. Don;t tell me any different -- because you have *no idea*. When I started low-carbing, I didn't eat anything that smacked of "treats" or echoed the junk foods I'd had problems with. I found sugar-free Jell-O an inadequate substitute for real dessert and it only made me crave the real thing more. Meal replacement bars were disgusting. Ditto Atkins shake mix (gack). After losing a fair amount of weight -- 35 pounds -- I discovered that I was a happier girl if I occasionally had a SF chocolate bar or a scoop of CarbSmart ice cream. I love food -- all sorts of food -- and yeah, I have a lifelong sweet tooth and a real problem with sugar addiction. If I eat something with sugar, anything at all, it can send me off-track for days. But not the sugar-free stuff ... and having soime of that a couple of times a week keeps me from saying yes to something loaded with white sugar. On a very real level, I need that stuff to stick to this way of eating for life. I've even come around on the protein bars. Every once in a while -- about once a month -- I find myself in a situation where a LC lunch is difficult to acquire. But a bottle of water and a Carb Solutions bar get me through until dinner. I wouldn't eat them every day -- they're expensive and only moderately nutritious -- but they definitely have their place. Pretend they don't exist. Instead of giving in to temptation of eating a scoop of ice cream... go do some activity that you enjoy... play a video game, masturbate, go play shoot some hoops, draw, whatever. Giving in to your temptations and letting them control you is indicative of a weak mind. Control your own body, don't let it control you. How ... fundamentalist. Switch "eating a scoop of ice cream" with "masturbate" in that paragraph and parse the whole thing over again. Some might be able to have cheats and snacks. For many others it leads further down the slippery slope that ends with a Big-Mac, Super-sized fry, jumbo coke, and a pint of Ben & Jerry's. You;re absolutely right. But for others it keeps them from that slippery slope by offering an alternative. Moderation and common sense are the key. Not abstinence. Not for everybody, anyway. Dawn |
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Myway wrote:
Russell Stover low-carb candies is about the same for me, spouse loves them and can eat only one per week, not me! I have to stay away from them completely. Brings back the old "sugar monkey" feelings. lol For me RC SF candies are worse because the effect is more subtle. If I eat them, the next day I go into a store and decide I can cheat with real candy. It's happened each and every time I've tried sugar alcohol chocolate. It triggers a craving that isn't even apparent to me but it's still powerfull enough to drive my to decide to cheat on the real thing. I can't touch them at all any more. Which is a shame because they taste almost as good as the real thing unlike so many low carb substitute products. |
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But eating isn't purely about fueling the body. If it were, we'd all
eat the same thing at every meal, every day. Food offers pleasure and variety. Food can be fun. It's about balancing the fun and the common sense. I've actually found myself doing just that. Eating the same meal for lunch every day for a few days in a row. It simplifies things. While food can be fun, I'm not looking to have fun right now. I've been having too much of that type of 'fun' and it is the reason why I've had to change my eating habits to LowCarb(atkins). Me, my "needs" are different from yours, which are different than other posters'. I need coffee. Every morning. You may argue that I don't literally NEED coffee to survive ... and I would grudgingly agree with that. Semantically, anyway. But on a very basic, fundamental level, I need my freakin' cup o' joe, dammit. Don;t tell me any different -- because you have *no idea*. I feel your pain...kinda. I used to drink at LEAST 2 20oz coffees every day(for the last 3 years that I've been working in my current position). On Jan 1, 2004 I stopped. I haven't drank anything that wasn't just water since. You don't need it. Stop telling yourself you need it. After losing a fair amount of weight -- 35 pounds -- I discovered that I was a happier girl if I occasionally had a SF chocolate bar or a scoop of CarbSmart ice cream. I love food -- all sorts of food -- and yeah, I have a lifelong sweet tooth and a real problem with sugar addiction. If I eat something with sugar, anything at all, it can send me off-track for days. But not the sugar-free stuff ... and having soime of that a couple of times a week keeps me from saying yes to something loaded with white sugar. Again, I can empathise with you. I am a serious carb addict. Specifically dark chocolate. Just like any other junky, I knew I needed to 'get clean and stay clean'. I also love cooking. Enough that my Christmas this year consisted of a professional cutlery set. I understand what it is to LOVE food. I still do, just different types. I addapt my recipies and cook according to Atkins now. No flour, breadcrumbs, brown-sugar based rubs on my BBQ, honey glaze on the ham, etc. Have you given yourself enough time to get over your addiction (say, 2 weeks)? Those cravings just go away. Now, even though the though of eating some dark chocolate kit-kats sets the saliva running, I know that I can't have it. That is that. I won't replace it with unsweetened chocolate and some splenda. On a very real level, I need that stuff to stick to this way of eating for life. You only think you do because you keep telling youself you can't do it without them. How ... fundamentalist. Switch "eating a scoop of ice cream" with "masturbate" in that paragraph and parse the whole thing over again. /boggle Moderation and common sense are the key. Not abstinence. Not for everybody, anyway. I agree with that. Its just that moderation and common sense go out the window when you start having 'just one more Low Carb (candy)bar'. |
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