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Old October 15th, 2007, 06:44 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Hollywood
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Default Taubes' Ten Inescapable Conclusions

On Oct 15, 11:37 am, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
"Hollywood" wrote


6. Excess calories don't make you fatter. Excess energy use doesn't
lead to weight loss in the long term. It does lead to hunger.


I think the research is either not solid on this point or Taubes is wrong.
Note that a carb intake which might drive hormones out of balance can be
fixed by appropriate / heavy exercise. That's why people can lose weight on
a low-fat, high-carb diet. Too much food intake can create an anabolic state
within the body, as too little food intake can create a catabolic state
within the body. Insulin will follow those states. Exercise can affect
those states as well, either by lessening the anabolic state or by
increasing the degree of catabolism within the body.

If Taubes doesn't believe that excess calories don't make us fatter over
time, then he must point to evidence of significant human food energy
existing within our poop.


IIRC: He does point to poop calories. But it's more based on a
cellular
level conservation discussion than a macro, person level conservation
issue.
I found it compelling. I have not slacked in my exercise, either. I
don't know
that this is cognitive dissonance or just I like the other, non-weight
loss
things I get from exercise.

9. Carbs stimulate insulin secretion, which leads to fat storage.
Fewer carbs = leaner us.


Where is exercise in the equation? It is well known that exercise can
influence this balance.


If it's about the exercise lowering insulin/improving response, then
it fits
fine. If it's about exercise calories burning adipose tissue, well,
there's
room for discussion.

10. Carbs also make us hungry. If hunger/cravings are signals that
cells need nutrition and insulin is putting everything into storage,
you can imagine what chronic hyperinsulemia can do to your
"willpower". Carbs also make us move less, through the same fat
storage story. If you are chronically elevated, and your food is going
into storage, instead of use, the use cells will be starved and not
feel like doing anything. It's the same story, and it's the
explanation of why people have it backwards.


Well, I can buy this too, to a degree. He does say "chronically elevated"
though.


Don't recall as the book is at home. If I were going to start Martin
Luthering
the district, I think I'd quote the book directly. Maybe email Taubes
to see if
it'd be a problem. Of course, better to ask forgiveness than
permission.

Thanks for the post.


No problem. Thanks for the response.