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~Deb~ December 30th, 2003 03:50 PM

U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
 
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Dec 30, 10:20 AM (ET)

By JOHN SOLOMON


WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration has decided to ban the herbal
weight-loss supplement ephedra from the marketplace because of concerns
about its effects on health, government officials said Tuesday.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and Food and Drug
Administration chief Mark McClellan were to announce the ban at a midday
news conference, the officials said, speaking only on condition of
anonymity.

The ban is likely to be met with litigation from manufacturers who dispute
the agency's assertion that ephedra, which was blamed in the death of a
professional baseball player earlier this year, is a health risk.

The government ban, one of the first involving a dietary supplement, comes
after Thompson this summer urged Congress to rewrite a law that rolled back
dietary-supplement regulations and to require manufacturers to acknowledge
potential side effects.


Ephedra has been linked to as many as 100 deaths, officials have said. And
Congress gathered testimony from families of people who are believed to have
died from its side effects. Among those who testified were the parents of
Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler, who died during spring training
last February while trying to lose weight. Toxicology tests showed ephedra
in his system.

Executives of several companies that make ephedra-based products have said
that studies have proven that they are safe when used properly.

"Anyone who has read our label knows that we go to great lengths to inform
our customers about the proper use of our products," said Russell Schreck,
chief executive officer of San Diego-based nutritional supplement-maker
Metabolife International. "We make it quite clear on our label that the
ephedra products are not to be sold or used by minors and that customers
with certain pre-existing medical conditions should 'consult a physician
before product use'."

But several scientists said that it was impossible to prove whether ephedra
was safe because studies screen out participants who have health problems -
the people most likely to be hurt by the product.

The General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative arm, looked into the
issue and found many people who reported problems had followed the label's
instructions.

The FDA had proposed warning labels and dosage limits for dietary
supplements with ephedra back in 1997, but then withdrew the proposal after
complaints from the industry and members of Congress.

In 2001, the National Football League banned its players from using ephedra
as a dietary supplement.








Eric Witte December 30th, 2003 07:10 PM

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"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message ws.com...
U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra


I can not believe they are still using the baseball players death.
You can not blame his death on something that was not in his
bloodstream!!!

Eric

PerpleGlow December 30th, 2003 10:09 PM

U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
 
Ahh I just saw your post after I sent mine!!

(Eric Witte) wrote in message om...
"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message ws.com...
U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra


I can not believe they are still using the baseball players death.
You can not blame his death on something that was not in his
bloodstream!!!

Eric


Avonleadragon December 31st, 2003 12:00 AM

U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
 
I just saw a report on my local news on this. Thing is, I don't
believe in diet pills anyway, they have never worked for me. I think
the natural way is best, but that's just me.

Avonleadragon

(Eric Witte) wrote in message om...
"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message ws.com...
U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra


I can not believe they are still using the baseball players death.
You can not blame his death on something that was not in his
bloodstream!!!

Eric


~Deb~ December 31st, 2003 12:57 AM

U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
 
Great minds think alike!
:))
"PerpleGlow" wrote in message
om...
Ahh I just saw your post after I sent mine!!

(Eric Witte) wrote in message

om...
"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message

ws.com...
U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra


I can not believe they are still using the baseball players death.
You can not blame his death on something that was not in his
bloodstream!!!

Eric




ephedra.biz December 31st, 2003 01:29 AM

U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
 
On 30 Dec 2003 11:10:22 -0800, (Eric Witte) wrote:

"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message ws.com...
U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra


I can not believe they are still using the baseball players death.
You can not blame his death on something that was not in his
bloodstream!!!

Eric


That's what a US$600,000,000 lawsuit and massive lobbying in D.C. will
get ya... :-|

Bob

www.ephedra.biz



ephedra.biz December 31st, 2003 01:33 AM

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On 30 Dec 2003 16:00:29 -0800, (Avonleadragon)
wrote:

I just saw a report on my local news on this. Thing is, I don't
believe in diet pills anyway, they have never worked for me. I think
the natural way is best, but that's just me.


Well, some would argue that ephedra *is* a natural way since it is
basically ephedrine alkaloids that grow in herbs. But that's a whole
other discussion :)

I know - by natural, you meant watching what one eats, exercise,
etc... :) right?

Bob

www.ephedra.biz



Eric Witte December 31st, 2003 02:30 AM

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(Avonleadragon) wrote in message . com...
I just saw a report on my local news on this. Thing is, I don't
believe in diet pills anyway, they have never worked for me. I think
the natural way is best, but that's just me.

Avonleadragon


Ephedrine works great. Its about the only thing that really does for
a lot of people. Bodybuilders have used it for years. You don't have
to get a "diet pill." Your paying for extra stuff you don't use.
I've always just did pure Ephedrine/Caffeine. Really the only thing
it does is give me extra energy and make it easier to keep away from
food. I can also cut the Calories more without it hurting my lean
mass that much either. The problem is it does not help much after
about a month. Then I have to stay off it for about 2 weeks. Doing
that a $12 combination gives me about 4-6 months. By then I'm usually
trying to gain weight again.

Basically the FDA is giving you a load of BS because they have no
control over the substance and it actually works. Its really
sickening how much they are lying to obtain their goal. For instance
the Baseball player did not have any in his bloodstream at the time of
death. He died because he was out of shape and wearing layers upon
layers of close in the heat. Most of the other claims have nothing to
back them up. You have maybe less than 100 or so real cases where the
substance caused harm, most probably because it was overdone. That is
pretty good for something that has been used for bodybuilding several
decades.

Eric

Mike1 January 1st, 2004 03:39 PM

U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
 
(Eric Witte) wrote:

Basically the FDA is giving you a load of BS because they have no
control over the substance and it actually works. Its really
sickening how much they are lying to obtain their goal. For instance
the Baseball player did not have any in his bloodstream at the time of
death. He died because he was out of shape and wearing layers upon
layers of close in the heat.



If you're talking about Minnesota Viking (FOOTball player) Cory
Stringer, he was a bloated fatso who dropped dead of heat-stroke (not a
heart-problem) in pre-season training camp on the same day Minneapolis
set its all-time record-high dewpoint temperature.

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Mike1 January 1st, 2004 03:43 PM

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On 30 Dec 2003 11:10:22 -0800,
(Eric Witte) wrote:

"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message
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U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra


I can not believe they are still using the baseball players death.
You can not blame his death on something that was not in his
bloodstream!!!

Eric


Not that I'm disagreeing with you - I think the idea of blaming his
death on ephedra is a total farse. But - I do recall that they did
say he had it in his bloodstream. Or was it that the tests were
inconslusive because of the amount of time it took for the tests to be
taken the ephedra had disapated.

The point of his story was that he had a pre-existing heart condition
that was only amplified by the ephedra use.



In what way would ephedra "amplify" that heart-condition in a way which
playing sports *wouldn't*?

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