graham crackers

[Jean B.]

Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft
Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make
LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really
worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of
them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.)
--
Jean B.

[Jim Marnott]

Jean B. wrote:
> Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft
> Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make
> LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really
> worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of
> them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.)

Great idea. I've been advocating writing to all your favorite food
manufacturer's and restaurants and supermarkets etc. to ask them to
make, cook and stock low carb foods. You know what they say, the
squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we ask, complain, request, beg
and bother ... the better chance we will have of getting what we want.

So, get out there and email your favorite places and ask them to get on
the bandwagon. I believe Preesi has a list of some of the major food
manufacturers and it can't be all that hard to google search for your
local supermarkets and restaurants.

The louder we are, the sooner we'll all get what we want.

NOTE: This is particularly important in Canada, where retailers and
grocers and restaurants still haven't really been getting into low-carb
at all.

--
Jim Marnott
231/194/194 (Hit goal on 22 Nov '03 -- exactly 6 months later)
Atkins since 22 May '03
Gym since 1 sept '03

[emkay]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:02:35 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft
>Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make
>LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really
>worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of
>them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.)

Most commercial cookie & cracker-type products tend to have a lot of
partially-hydrogenated oils (trans fats). At least, those made by big
Nabisco-type companies do, anyway. I'd imagine that even if they made an
LC graham cracker, it would have them.

Em

[Jean B.]

emkay wrote:
> Most commercial cookie & cracker-type products tend to have a lot of
> partially-hydrogenated oils (trans fats). At least, those made by big
> Nabisco-type companies do, anyway. I'd imagine that even if they made an
> LC graham cracker, it would have them.
>
For some odd reason, I tend to overlook that when it comes to
graham crackers. Maybe it's because I only use them for certain
things, so I don't consume a lot of them. OTOH hand, I REALLY
want them for those things.

BTW, I did look at the various HFS versions of graham crackers, in
the hope that at least one would be relatively LC. No such luck,
even with the ?oat bran? one, and there were MANY versions.

--
Jean B.

[emkay]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:44:22 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>emkay wrote:
>> Most commercial cookie & cracker-type products tend to have a lot of
>> partially-hydrogenated oils (trans fats). At least, those made by big
>> Nabisco-type companies do, anyway. I'd imagine that even if they made an
>> LC graham cracker, it would have them.
>>
>For some odd reason, I tend to overlook that when it comes to
>graham crackers. Maybe it's because I only use them for certain
>things, so I don't consume a lot of them. OTOH hand, I REALLY
>want them for those things.
>
>BTW, I did look at the various HFS versions of graham crackers, in
>the hope that at least one would be relatively LC. No such luck,
>even with the ?oat bran? one, and there were MANY versions.

I was wondering if perhaps Nature's Flavors had a graham-flavored
concentrate (not syrup). They have zillions of concentrate flavors. No
graham, unfortunately, but I did notice something new there: their "low
carb vanilla sweet base" (made from liquid splenda) has been replaced with
a new product: "Low Carb Sweet Drops". This new one is made with
acesulfame K rather than sucralose. I guess the splenda folks *did* make
them stop selling it! (The new one has the same 1 cup -to - 32 cups
sweetness ratio as the old one.)

Em

[ndnb]

This is a great idea for Splenda as well. I know not everyone uses it but
alot of people do and it would be really nice not to have to carry my own
with me all the time and instead, when I sit down at a restaurant and order
an iced tea that I can reach for a Splenda that's on the table! :)


"Jim Marnott" > wrote in message
...
> Jean B. wrote:
> > Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft
> > Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make
> > LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really
> > worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of
> > them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.)
>
> Great idea. I've been advocating writing to all your favorite food
> manufacturer's and restaurants and supermarkets etc. to ask them to
> make, cook and stock low carb foods. You know what they say, the
> squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we ask, complain, request, beg
> and bother ... the better chance we will have of getting what we want.
>
> So, get out there and email your favorite places and ask them to get on
> the bandwagon. I believe Preesi has a list of some of the major food
> manufacturers and it can't be all that hard to google search for your
> local supermarkets and restaurants.
>
> The louder we are, the sooner we'll all get what we want.
>
> NOTE: This is particularly important in Canada, where retailers and
> grocers and restaurants still haven't really been getting into low-carb
> at all.
>
> --
> Jim Marnott
> 231/194/194 (Hit goal on 22 Nov '03 -- exactly 6 months later)
> Atkins since 22 May '03
> Gym since 1 sept '03
>

[Jean B.]

ndnb wrote:
>
> This is a great idea for Splenda as well. I know not everyone uses it but
> alot of people do and it would be really nice not to have to carry my own
> with me all the time and instead, when I sit down at a restaurant and order
> an iced tea that I can reach for a Splenda that's on the table! :)
>

It is rather surprising that more places don't offer Splenda. I
try to carry my own with me, and the little packets end up getting
rather ratty. Then I weed them out of my pocket after carrying
them for a while, which, of course, means immediately thereafter I
wish I had them.

--
Jean B.

[Lee B.]

I wonder if restaurants etc have some sort of agreement with the Equal
etc distributors (like most only serve either Pepsi or Coke, but not
both). For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small
zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them
in that for protection.

Lee

"Jean B." wrote:
>
> It is rather surprising that more places don't offer Splenda. I
> try to carry my own with me, and the little packets end up getting
> rather ratty. Then I weed them out of my pocket after carrying
> them for a while, which, of course, means immediately thereafter I
> wish I had them.

[Jean B.]

"Lee B." wrote:
>
> I wonder if restaurants etc have some sort of agreement with the Equal
> etc distributors (like most only serve either Pepsi or Coke, but not
> both). For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small
> zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them
> in that for protection.
>
> Lee
>

Hmmmm. So obvious an idea. I wonder why *I* never thought of
that. Now where did I put those tiny bags?... Thanks!

--
Jean B.

[Frank Lynch]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:38:22 -0500, in a clarity of expression
resembling Cicero, Jim Marnott > wrote:

>Jean B. wrote:
>> Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft
>> Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make
>> LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really
>> worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of
>> them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.)
>
>Great idea. I've been advocating writing to all your favorite food
>manufacturer's and restaurants and supermarkets etc. to ask them to
>make, cook and stock low carb foods. You know what they say, the
>squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we ask, complain, request, beg
>and bother ... the better chance we will have of getting what we want.
>
>So, get out there and email your favorite places and ask them to get on
>the bandwagon. I believe Preesi has a list of some of the major food
>manufacturers and it can't be all that hard to google search for your
>local supermarkets and restaurants.
>
>The louder we are, the sooner we'll all get what we want.
>
>NOTE: This is particularly important in Canada, where retailers and
>grocers and restaurants still haven't really been getting into low-carb
>at all.

Don't underestimate the power of money: our purchases will speak
louder than emails.

Brand managers are constantly reading their monthly Nielsen reports
(on grocery sales, not television ratings in this case) and will be
able to see what's happening.

So buy, get what you want, and spare yourself the effort of emialing.

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/

[emkay]

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:36:13 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>"Lee B." wrote:
>> For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small
>> zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them
>> in that for protection.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>
>Hmmmm. So obvious an idea. I wonder why *I* never thought of
>that. Now where did I put those tiny bags?... Thanks!

Or you could get the Splenda tablets from Australia. Tiny, convenient,
easier to carry around, and fewer carbs than the packets.

Em

[Kalish]

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:08:44 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>try to carry my own with me, and the little packets end up getting
>rather ratty. Then I weed them out of my pocket after carrying
>them for a while, which, of course, means immediately thereafter I
>wish I had them.

I got a free sample of NutraSweet (Natrasweet? whatever) a few years
ago and they included a convenient little "wallet" thingie for
carrying around sweetener packets. I think I've seen them in various
mailorder catalogs. I suspect the packets would still get ratty in
the baggie - you need something with a little more structure to it.
If I see anything, I'll post it. Kalish

[Jean B.]

Kalish wrote:
>
> I got a free sample of NutraSweet (Natrasweet? whatever) a few years
> ago and they included a convenient little "wallet" thingie for
> carrying around sweetener packets. I think I've seen them in various
> mailorder catalogs. I suspect the packets would still get ratty in
> the baggie - you need something with a little more structure to it.
> If I see anything, I'll post it. Kalish

Thanks! In the meantime, thank you for reminding me to go look
for those tiny plastic bags. Maybe I will remember after I read
the four remaining messages. :-)
--
Jean B.

[jamie]

Jean B. > wrote:
> "Lee B." wrote:
>> . For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small
>> zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them
>> in that for protection.
>>
>
> Hmmmm. So obvious an idea. I wonder why *I* never thought of
> that. Now where did I put those tiny bags?... Thanks!

I keep a ziplock baggie of Splenda packets in the glove compartment.
If you want tiny ziplocks, Walmart has them on the rack with pill-keepers
and medicine droppers. Craft stores sell them in larger quantities.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

[jamie]

ndnb > wrote:
> This is a great idea for Splenda as well. I know not everyone uses it but
> alot of people do and it would be really nice not to have to carry my own
> with me all the time and instead, when I sit down at a restaurant and order
> an iced tea that I can reach for a Splenda that's on the table! :)

I've gotten a few restaurants to order Splenda by giving the manager a
couple of packets to sample.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

[Jean B.]

jamie wrote:
>
> I keep a ziplock baggie of Splenda packets in the glove compartment.
> If you want tiny ziplocks, Walmart has them on the rack with pill-keepers
> and medicine droppers. Craft stores sell them in larger quantities.
>
With this jog to my memory, I found my moderately small ones and
got them out. They may remind me to look for the really small
ones that I think I have here. Somewhere.

--
Jean B.