View Full Version : Starting to exercise, maybe NOT a good idea?
em
August 16th, 2007, 07:48 PM
I've been losing weight at a pretty good clip without much exercise at all.
The occasional stroll and that's about it. I'm not a real demon about it,
but wouldn't mind starting an exercise program. Frankly, I'm concerned.
I know exercise will change my metabolism, but I'm not sure how it will all
come out in the end. Basically, I count carbs & that's it. I eat when I'm
hungry and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I'm a little worried about
exercise making me more hungry, which means I'll eat more, and depending on
how much more I eat, it may offset the weight-loss/fat-loss benefits of
exercise.
Am I making an excuse here, or is there some reality in this?
Doug Freyburger
August 16th, 2007, 08:26 PM
"em" > wrote:
>
> I've been losing weight at a pretty good clip without much exercise at all.
> The occasional stroll and that's about it. I'm not a real demon about it,
> but wouldn't mind starting an exercise program. Frankly, I'm concerned.
>
> I know exercise will change my metabolism, but I'm not sure how it will all
> come out in the end. Basically, I count carbs & that's it. I eat when I'm
> hungry and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I'm a little worried about
> exercise making me more hungry, which means I'll eat more, and depending on
> how much more I eat, it may offset the weight-loss/fat-loss benefits of
> exercise.
>
> Am I making an excuse here, or is there some reality in this?
Speaking as a guy who has spent years trying to figure out how to
maintain motivation to exercise - Excuse. Exercise may be as
pleasant and interesting as brushing your teeth, but how many days
do you skip brushing because of that? Once I figured out that
exercise is as optional as brushing my teeth, I've managed to do
it more often than not ever since. For me it can't be about
motivation so I had to make it about being mandatory and a part
of the daily routine.
Any extra appetite will be temporary. Think of it like Atkins
Induction, changes that might not be what you want or expect, but
that are also temporary. The water retention of a new exercise
plan, same deal. Plenty of people have reported increased
appetite and/or water retention gain, but it doesn't last once the
new plan is a few weeks old. If you're thinking is that short term,
time to work on longer term thinking.
What are you planning at the start? If you can't walk on the level
for 30+ minutes and wonder why it counts as exercise, then your
conditioning level is such that a brisk daily walk is a good starting
point. If you can walk on the level for 30+ minutes and wonder why
it counts as exercise, then your starting point is something more.
Pat[_3_]
August 16th, 2007, 10:05 PM
>
> I know exercise will change my metabolism, but I'm not sure how it will
> all come out in the end. Basically, I count carbs & that's it. I eat when
> I'm hungry and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I'm a little worried about
> exercise making me more hungry, which means I'll eat more, and depending
> on how much more I eat, it may offset the weight-loss/fat-loss benefits of
> exercise.
>
> Am I making an excuse here, or is there some reality in this?
It's an excuse, plain and simple. With exercise, you build muscle which uses
more calories and raises your metabolism. You sleep better, you have more
energy, and you just all around feel better.
Start off with walking. Get out in the fresh air and see the neighborhood.
Pat in TX
>
Jim
August 16th, 2007, 10:19 PM
Pat wrote:
>>I know exercise will change my metabolism, but I'm not sure how it will
>>all come out in the end. Basically, I count carbs & that's it. I eat when
>>I'm hungry and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I'm a little worried about
>>exercise making me more hungry, which means I'll eat more, and depending
>>on how much more I eat, it may offset the weight-loss/fat-loss benefits of
>>exercise.
>>
>>Am I making an excuse here, or is there some reality in this?
>
>
> It's an excuse, plain and simple. With exercise, you build muscle which uses
> more calories and raises your metabolism. You sleep better, you have more
> energy, and you just all around feel better.
>
> Start off with walking. Get out in the fresh air and see the neighborhood.
>
> Pat in TX
2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title,
Atkins New Diet Revolution book
ATKINS in a few lines ....
1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
book
4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)
You evidently haven't read the Atkins book. He devotes an entire chapter
to it, and declares it NON-NEGOTIABLE.
You are trying to negotiate it.
Jim
August 17th, 2007, 03:08 AM
Pat wrote:
> "Jim" > You evidently haven't read the Atkins book. He devotes an entire
> chapter
>
>>to it, and declares it NON-NEGOTIABLE.
>>
>>You are trying to negotiate it.
>
>
> Not me. It's "em" who's trying to get support for being a couch potato. I
> just rode 34 miles today in the Texas heat. Yesterday, I walked 6
> miles.....
>
> Pat in TX
>
>>
>
>
Sorry to have confused you. I was actually thinking /intending that my
reply was addressed to "em".
I only rode 12 miles today, a few of them through light rain. Fairly cool.
There are some days when it is a little hard to start riding, but rarely
does that mood of avoiding exercise last. After a little while, that
nice feeling of exercising the body overtakes the previous negative
mindset that wanted to just lie on the couch.
Pat[_3_]
August 17th, 2007, 03:37 AM
"Jim" > You evidently haven't read the Atkins book. He devotes an entire
chapter
> to it, and declares it NON-NEGOTIABLE.
>
> You are trying to negotiate it.
Not me. It's "em" who's trying to get support for being a couch potato. I
just rode 34 miles today in the Texas heat. Yesterday, I walked 6
miles.....
Pat in TX
>
>
Cubit
August 17th, 2007, 07:01 PM
In my experience exercise is optional, and may be dangerous, if one is over
300.
"em" > wrote in message ...
> I've been losing weight at a pretty good clip without much exercise at
> all. The occasional stroll and that's about it. I'm not a real demon about
> it, but wouldn't mind starting an exercise program. Frankly, I'm
> concerned.
>
> I know exercise will change my metabolism, but I'm not sure how it will
> all come out in the end. Basically, I count carbs & that's it. I eat when
> I'm hungry and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I'm a little worried about
> exercise making me more hungry, which means I'll eat more, and depending
> on how much more I eat, it may offset the weight-loss/fat-loss benefits of
> exercise.
>
> Am I making an excuse here, or is there some reality in this?
Pat[_3_]
August 18th, 2007, 12:53 AM
"Cubit" > wrote in message
. ..
> In my experience exercise is optional, and may be dangerous, if one is
> over 300.
You haven't been watching "Fat March" then. Why would you think even walking
would be dangerous?
Pat in TX
Cubit
August 18th, 2007, 05:29 PM
-My poor sore ankle (back then). I even tried using boots for ankle
support, but walking just destroyed my left ankle within days.
At normal weight the ankle seems normal.
"Pat" > wrote in message
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>
> "Cubit" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> In my experience exercise is optional, and may be dangerous, if one is
>> over 300.
>
> You haven't been watching "Fat March" then. Why would you think even
> walking would be dangerous?
>
> Pat in TX
>
Pat[_3_]
August 19th, 2007, 12:29 AM
>
> At normal weight the ankle seems normal.
>>> In my experience exercise is optional, and may be dangerous, if one is
>>> over 300.
>> You haven't been watching "Fat March" then. Why would you think even
>> walking would be dangerous?
>>
>> Pat in TX
"Cubit" <> -My poor sore ankle (back then). I even tried using boots for
ankle
> support, but walking just destroyed my left ankle within days.
Oh, you have an ankle problem. From what you wrote, though, I got the idea
you were saying exercise was optional and maybe dangerous for all people who
weigh 300+ pounds. You meant exercise was bad for you and you alone.
You said "back then." Is your ankle better now? I hope so. I had to have my
ankle reconstructed and now my doctor refuses to let me run on "his ankle."
However, I ride bikes and hike without any problems. And, there's always
swimming, which doesn't hurt ankles at all. <G>
Pat in TX
>
>>
>
>
paula.windeagle@gmail.com
August 19th, 2007, 10:57 PM
On Aug 16, 2:48 pm, "em" > wrote:
> I've been losing weight at a pretty good clip without much exercise at all.
> The occasional stroll and that's about it. I'm not a real demon about it,
> but wouldn't mind starting an exercise program. Frankly, I'm concerned.
>
> I know exercise will change my metabolism, but I'm not sure how it will all
> come out in the end. Basically, I count carbs & that's it. I eat when I'm
> hungry and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I'm a little worried about
> exercise making me more hungry, which means I'll eat more, and depending on
> how much more I eat, it may offset the weight-loss/fat-loss benefits of
> exercise.
>
> Am I making an excuse here, or is there some reality in this?
It is true you can loose weight by changing you diet alone. I did. But
in the end I found I was lacking flexibilty and strength I needed to
maintain my body as it aged. Check out how I have done at my page
http://milliondollarbody.com/signup/?username=coachpaula I won a $1000
for loosing 67lbs you can too no matter which way you decide to go.
Pat[_3_]
August 20th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Hey Coach Paula, go loose yourself.
pinkprincess
August 20th, 2007, 09:59 AM
it's true that exercises are important for a good health
wifezilla@gmail.com
August 20th, 2007, 04:57 PM
While exercise never did a damn thing to help me lose weight, it does
plenty of other good things. Do it :D
Aaron Baugher
August 21st, 2007, 03:14 PM
" > writes:
> While exercise never did a damn thing to help me lose weight, it
> does plenty of other good things. Do it :D
Exactly. Exercise is good for you in lots of different ways.
"Protein Power" spends a chapter explaining how weight lifting -- in
combination with a low-carb diet -- promotes the release of human
growth hormone, which does all sorts of good things for you.
Of course, we all exercise. Unless you're immune to gravity and
atmospheric pressure, or you're in outer space, your body is
exercising against those forces around the clock. Your brain, heart,
diaphragm, and many other organs also constantly exercise and burn
calories. Even someone who is completely confined to a hospital bed
burns hundreds of calories, after all, and can lose weight based on
diet alone.
So the issue isn't really whether you need *any* exercise, but whether
you need more than you're getting in your day-to-day life, and what
kind it should be. One summer, I went from being sedentary to running
3-4 miles every other day, and biking 10 hilly miles most of the other
days. I didn't lose a pound doing that for a few months, because I
was eating a maintenance level of carbs at the time. (It's called
*maintenance* for a reason.) On the other hand, I've lost weight on a
low-carb diet while getting no more exercise than walking to the
mailbox every day. Now that I've spent a couple months getting my
diet squared away, I'm starting a regimen of body-weight exercises
(weight lifting without equipment), to use up some of the extra energy
I've got now.
Diet trumps exercise, as far as weight loss is concerned. Get the
diet right, and exercise will do great things. Try to use exercise to
avoid dealing with diet, and it's like running uphill.
--
Aaron -- 285/253/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz
Roger Zoul
August 21st, 2007, 04:35 PM
Aaron Baugher wrote:
:: Diet trumps exercise, as far as weight loss is concerned. Get the
:: diet right, and exercise will do great things. Try to use exercise
:: to avoid dealing with diet, and it's like running uphill.
Exactly.
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