Atkins

[Millan]

Having stopped smoking 8 months ago I now need to loose some weight.

I am in the UK an need some advice on either what is allowed or what is not
allowed in the induction period of the Atkins diet, having read a little I
feel like giving this diet a go. I havent got fat legs or arms but have a
pit belly and fat back I need shot of.

Can anyone give me some help with regards to whats allowed or not please

thanks all

millan

[amyotte@personainternet.com]

On Jul 11, 7:52 pm, "Millan" > wrote:
> Having stopped smoking 8 months ago I now need to loose some weight.
>
> I am in the UK an need some advice on either what is allowed or what is not
> allowed in the induction period of the Atkins diet, having read a little I
> feel like giving this diet a go. I havent got fat legs or arms but have a
> pit belly and fat back I need shot of.
>
> Can anyone give me some help with regards to whats allowed or not please
>
> thanks all
>
> millan

This is my second go around with low carb, the first time was derailed
by my wife cooking with my son at home and the hi carb meals are easy
for her to prepare.
This time I have taken control and will prepare/make what I want and
she does the single portion of her likes.
I have read thru Protein Power book, low carb, and from what I gather
by eating low carb the hunger pangs are eliminated, which I see
happening, one doesn't get hungry they get weak. I have lost 28 lbs
since the start of the year.
If you do your research you know that breads, potatoes, pasta,
anything carby is out. Eggs, fish, meats, cheese are in. My first go
round 7 years ago was brutal with canned meats being the staple.
There are so many good low carb recipe ideas on the web now it is easy
to feed yourself with variety. TRY NEW IDEAS, they may suck but who
knows they mey be good. BTW Thanks to those who post. I bought a
cheap slow cooker and do up a roast or pork every once in a while. I
make the meat crust pizza, meatza, using sausage for the crust, check
the label as some are high in carbs. I do a lot of egg salads with
different stuff included with a Romaine lettuce wrap instead of
bread. Hamburger patties with cheese and hot pepper rings are great
as a lunch. Grab a bunch of shrimp with some sauce and a salad like I
just did for dinner instead of the cardboard pizza my wife had and
YUMM.
Hot Dogs warped in romaine with hot pepper rings and mustard make a
great breakfast or lunch.
On induction - you restrict most carbs, if you look at the labels,
there are carb #s, try to keep to 25 or less per day and you should be
fine.
Due to work, on occasion, I have had to "eat regular" for a week or
so, and then got back on track the next week, no biggie just a slow
down.
This "way of eating" WOE is something that if you can find the variety
is quite easy. Pounds went on slowly and after induction depending on
your amount of exercise will come off slowly. I am lazy and after
about the 4rd month slowed down, but am still dropping. After 6
months I should be about 4-5 lbs per month but with holidays, parties,
and eating now the weird stuff to me, I am at 1-2 lbs per month. BUT
still losing.

Induction isn't a big deal, just look at the labels, keep the numbers
low, and you will do fine. Forever I will look at labels as I have a
posted pic of me at 222 lbs and not at all liking that shot.

Good Luck, keep posting, there are good people here.

Brian
222/194/185 sine Jan01.07

[BlueBrooke[_2_]]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:52:10 +0100, "Millan" > wrote:

>Having stopped smoking 8 months ago I now need to loose some weight.
>
>I am in the UK an need some advice on either what is allowed or what is not
>allowed in the induction period of the Atkins diet, having read a little I
>feel like giving this diet a go. I havent got fat legs or arms but have a
>pit belly and fat back I need shot of.
>
>Can anyone give me some help with regards to whats allowed or not please
>
>thanks all
>
>millan

Are the books not available over there?

--
BlueBrooke
254/234/135

[Millan]

"BlueBrooke" <.@.> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:52:10 +0100, "Millan" > wrote:
>
>>Having stopped smoking 8 months ago I now need to loose some weight.
>>
>>I am in the UK an need some advice on either what is allowed or what is
>>not
>>allowed in the induction period of the Atkins diet, having read a little I
>>feel like giving this diet a go. I havent got fat legs or arms but have a
>>pit belly and fat back I need shot of.
>>
>>Can anyone give me some help with regards to whats allowed or not please
>>
>>thanks all
>>
>>millan
>
> Are the books not available over there?
>
> --
> BlueBrooke
> 254/234/135

Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the foods
suggested are not available here, if they are they are specialist foods and
cost a small fortune. I just need to know what to avoid if possible. How
many cards a day are allowed etc

[Hueyduck]

Millan wrote:

>
>
> Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the foods
> suggested are not available here, if they are they are specialist foods and
> cost a small fortune. I just need to know what to avoid if possible. How
> many cards a day are allowed etc

Cards are allowed even during induction: they contain fiber. ;-) Had to
do this one.

Welcome here Millan.
Have you read the message that's called
"Saffire's Weekly Low-Carb Tips" ? It might contain many answers or link
to answers.
This message is posted regularily.



The good news for you is that this woe is very effective on people with
mostly belly fat (or so I read).

Huey

[Hueyduck]

> Welcome here Millan.
> Have you read the message that's called
> "Saffire's Weekly Low-Carb Tips" ? It might contain many answers or link
> to answers.

Of course, there's also the FAQ entitled

FAQ: A Beginner's Guide to LowCarb Living

wich is posted very often too.

Huey

[FOB]

Forget the specific foods and recipes, you need to know how to count carbs
and the basic mechanics of low carbing. I'm sure that you have meat, eggs,
cheese and low carb vegetables wherever you live. That's what the diet is
about, not about specialty foods.

Millan wrote:

| Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the foods
| suggested are not available here, if they are they are specialist
| foods and cost a small fortune. I just need to know what to avoid if
| possible. How many cards a day are allowed etc

[BlueBrooke[_2_]]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:07:14 +0100, "Millan" > wrote:

>
>"BlueBrooke" <.@.> wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:52:10 +0100, "Millan" > wrote:
>>
>>>Having stopped smoking 8 months ago I now need to loose some weight.
>>>
>>>I am in the UK an need some advice on either what is allowed or what is
>>>not
>>>allowed in the induction period of the Atkins diet, having read a little I
>>>feel like giving this diet a go. I havent got fat legs or arms but have a
>>>pit belly and fat back I need shot of.
>>>
>>>Can anyone give me some help with regards to whats allowed or not please
>>>
>>>thanks all
>>>
>>>millan
>>
>> Are the books not available over there?
>>
>> --
>> BlueBrooke
>> 254/234/135
>
>Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the foods
>suggested are not available here, if they are they are specialist foods and
>cost a small fortune. I just need to know what to avoid if possible. How
>many cards a day are allowed etc

Hi, Milan --

I don't know much about your market, but I thought the basics were the
basics -- i.e., eggs, meat, cheese. You don't need "specialist foods"
-- you just need real food. I don't recall any "specialist foods"
recommended on induction in either the 1972 version or the later ones.
Skip the junk, eat real food, count the carbs. The information about
carb limits, etc., that you're looking for is in the book and doesn't
relate specifically to the U.S. market.

If, on the other hand, if you don't want to buy the book, you can find
this information readily on the internet. There are a lot of sites
that list the induction rules and foods.

Good luck.

--
BlueBrooke
254/233/135

[jackiepatti@gmail.com]

On Jul 12, 2:07 am, "Millan" > wrote:

> Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the foods
> suggested are not available here, if they are they are specialist foods and
> cost a small fortune. I just need to know what to avoid if possible. How
> many cards a day are allowed etc

I don't have the induction list in front of me... but as I recall, the
foods on it were things like meat, fish, poultry, eggs, salad veggies,
cooked low-starch veggies, etc.

These are neither "specialty foods" nor foods that cost a small
fortune. They're just regular foods.

[Aaron Baugher]

"Millan" > writes:

> Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the
> foods suggested are not available here, if they are they are
> specialist foods and cost a small fortune. I just need to know what
> to avoid if possible. How many cards a day are allowed etc

The books don't recommend many specialist foods on Induction, because
the bake mixes and such aren't *that* low in carbs. I just picked up
these three books for a total of $4.50 at a thrift store yesterday:

Dr. Atkins's New Diet Revolution (2002 revision)
Dr. Atkins's Quick & Easy New Diet Cookbook (authored by Mrs. Atkins)
Dr. Atkins's New Carbohydrate Gram Counter

The last one is a small book that lists carbs, net carbs, fiber,
protein, fat, and calories for every food I can think of. The
cookbook looks promising, with a lot of fairly simple recipes. (Hence
the "quick & easy" in the title, I guess.)

I've gotten all my low-carb books and cookbooks at thrift stores and
used book stores for a dollar or two, including Protein Power, the PP
Life Plan, the Carbohydrate Addict's Lifeplan, and a few others. If
you see a copy of PP, grab it; it's very good.

Take advantage of the failure of others by buying their nearly unused
dieting books. :-) My thrift store has a shelf with several hundred
cookbooks and diet books, and except for the ones with big glossy
pages, they tend to be cheap. I also like to look for cookbooks from
before the low-fat era, when recipes included things like butter and
weren't all designed for super-lean beef and skinless chicken
breasts. I picked up a grilling cookbook yesterday, and you wouldn't
believe the amount of fat on the steaks in the pictures!

Anyway, back to your question: To begin, keep your carbs under
20g/day, and eat unprocessed meat, eggs, cheese, butter, natural oils,
lettuce, cabbage, swiss chard, broccoli, mushrooms, mustard, mayo
(without sugar), pork rinds, nuts (sparingly), asparagus, sprouts,
radishes, zucchini, celery, and cauliflower. That's not the whole
list, but that'll get you started while you find a copy of a book, or
do a web search for "induction list of foods."

Also, don't focus on "what to avoid"; focus on what to eat. If you
focus on what to avoid, that includes 75% of the stuff in the grocery
store, and it'll seem like you're depriving yourself. But it's not
that you can't eat 75% of foods; it's that the problem foods are
processed into about a million different forms, so they fill up the
grocery shelves.

Corn shows up in dozens of different places, from fresh ears in the
vegetable department, to canned in the canned aisle, to frozen in the
frozen aisle, to tortillas in a couple places, to tortilla chips in
the snack aisle, to corn flour in the baked goods. There's corn in
every aisle of the store, while radishes are in one place -- sold
fresh. So stay focused on finding the good stuff, and not on avoiding
the onslaught of expensively marketed processed grains.



--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

[Doug Freyburger]

wrote:
> "Millan" > wrote:
>
> > Yes but they are geared towards the US market and t=some of the foods
> > suggested are not available here, if they are they are specialist foods and
> > cost a small fortune. I just need to know what to avoid if possible. How
> > many cards a day are allowed etc
>
> I don't have the induction list in front of me... but as I recall, the
> foods on it were things like meat, fish, poultry, eggs, salad veggies,
> cooked low-starch veggies, etc.
>
> These are neither "specialty foods" nor foods that cost a small
> fortune. They're just regular foods.

Here's the list of acceptable foods while on Induction:

http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkins-phases/phase-one/acceptable-foods/

If you see anything that's a specialty food you are over-reading
details searching for specialties. Fish/poultry/meat is not a
specialty food. Vegetables are not a specialty food. The only
specialty foods that might appear in the list depending on your
geography is artificial sweeteners. If you can't find the listed
ones don't use any artificial sweeteners or break that rule.

Here's a classic quote that very few people believe early on:

"Remember that trying to do a low-fat version of the Atkins
Nutritional Approach TM may interfere with fat burning and
derail your weight loss."

On the Atkins site there is also a suggested menu for the
two weeks:

http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkins-phases/phase-one/two-week-induction-meal-plan/

At first glance it is clear that the person who wrote the menus
did not know the contents of the acceptable foods list. It has
crisp breads listed on the first day and grains are not in the
acceptable foods list. Of course bars are listed several days
in, but they can be written off - The company makes money
selling them so of course they recommend them.

http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkins-phases/phase-one/the-rules-of-induction/

The rules for Induction also mentions grain. It's clear that
either the list of acceptable foods evolved but was never changed
to reflect the new list, or the company added comments in the
rules to allow their own products. Funny how that works.

Here's a classic quote that shows that calories eaten will go
down as you advance in the process:

"5. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite,
especially as it decreases. When you're hungry, eat the amount
that makes you feel satisfied, but not stuffed. When you're not
hungry, eat a small controlled carbohydrate snack to accompany
your nutritional supplements."

But it doesn't just say to reduce calories as far as you can;
it says to reduce down but not to a starvation level.

It works just fine to do Induction with no specialty foods of any
sort and no Atkins products. In fact, given the stress in the
book in favor of natural foods it is supposed to work better
without specialty foods and Atkins products.