Idiots guide to Induction [Archive]

KenKnightJack

May 13th, 2004, 02:24 PM

-Eat 2 boiled eggs in the morning

-have chicken, tuna or red meat (minced if you like) with some lettuce and
tomato salad for lunch and dinner.
the amount of salad aloud is 3 cups.

-For a snack you can eat some cheese during the day.

-Drink at least 1.5 liters (8 glasses) of water per day.

-take some "one per day vitamins" that have vitamins and minerals.

-Do some sort of exercise (even walking) for at least 30 mins a day - 3
times a week minimum.

-Do not eat any sugar, bread, pasta, potatoes.

-Do all of the above, don't omit the vitamins or exercise.

"Nick" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> Atkins Induction phase?
>
> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
>
> The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> supplemented by water.
>
> I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> Induction on it then that would be great.
>
> Thats it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick

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KenKnightJack

May 13th, 2004, 02:27 PM

I have to agree with queen of cans and jars. You must read the book.
I did Atkins a long time ago without knowing what I was doing, and
afterwards I regained the lost weight.
Now I read the book and I have a solid knowledge about why and how I will
loose weight.
Its nice to know WHY you are loosing weight and HOW.

"KenKnightJack" > wrote in message
s.com...
> -Eat 2 boiled eggs in the morning
>
> -have chicken, tuna or red meat (minced if you like) with some lettuce and
> tomato salad for lunch and dinner.
> the amount of salad aloud is 3 cups.
>
> -For a snack you can eat some cheese during the day.
>
> -Drink at least 1.5 liters (8 glasses) of water per day.
>
> -take some "one per day vitamins" that have vitamins and minerals.
>
> -Do some sort of exercise (even walking) for at least 30 mins a day - 3
> times a week minimum.
>
> -Do not eat any sugar, bread, pasta, potatoes.
>
> -Do all of the above, don't omit the vitamins or exercise.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Nick" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > Atkins Induction phase?
> >
> > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
> >
> > The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> > supplemented by water.
> >
> > I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> > could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> > Induction on it then that would be great.
> >
> > Thats it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Nick
>
>
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JC Der Koenig

May 13th, 2004, 02:57 PM

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
.. .
> Nick > wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > Atkins Induction phase?
> >
> > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
> >
> > The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> > supplemented by water.
> >
> > I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> > could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> > Induction on it then that would be great.
>
> nope. doesn't work that way. you need to read the book, and you need
> to do it right.
>
> or you can just stay fat.
>
> it's up to you.
>

I didn't read any book.

Cubit

May 13th, 2004, 03:01 PM

Cream Cheese

"Nick" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> Atkins Induction phase?
>
> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
>
> The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> supplemented by water.
>
> I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> Induction on it then that would be great.
>
> Thats it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick

Mike

May 13th, 2004, 03:28 PM

"Nick" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> Atkins Induction phase?
>
> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?

hmmm, one food? meat meat and meat

The Queen of Cans and Jars

May 13th, 2004, 03:34 PM

JC Der Koenig > wrote:

> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Nick > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > > Atkins Induction phase?
> > >
> > > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> > > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
> > >
> > > The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> > > supplemented by water.
> > >
> > > I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> > > could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> > > Induction on it then that would be great.
> >
> > nope. doesn't work that way. you need to read the book, and you need
> > to do it right.
> >
> > or you can just stay fat.
> >
> > it's up to you.
> >
>
> I didn't read any book.

you don't follow atkins; you do your own thing. Nick here is a) not too
bright and b) wanting to do induction. he clearly needs some guidance.
the book is as good a place to start as any.

Jackie Patti

May 13th, 2004, 03:48 PM

Ignoramus27444 wrote:

> Try reading the atkins book.

And the newsgroup's FAQ.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

JC Der Koenig

May 13th, 2004, 04:18 PM

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
...
> JC Der Koenig > wrote:
>
> > "The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > Nick > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > > > Atkins Induction phase?
> > > >
> > > > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to
do
> > > > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
> > > >
> > > > The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> > > > supplemented by water.
> > > >
> > > > I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> > > > could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> > > > Induction on it then that would be great.
> > >
> > > nope. doesn't work that way. you need to read the book, and you need
> > > to do it right.
> > >
> > > or you can just stay fat.
> > >
> > > it's up to you.
> > >
> >
> > I didn't read any book.
>
> you don't follow atkins; you do your own thing. Nick here is a) not too
> bright and b) wanting to do induction. he clearly needs some guidance.
> the book is as good a place to start as any.

Many boxers are stupid.

Many boxers have successfully followed a low carb diet without reading a
book.

Idiot OP should be able to do it too.

Caveat: OP may be dumber than a boxer... but that's quite a stretch. There
is evidence that he's at least as smart as some boxers because he was able
to post a message to this newsgroup. And yes I know... that's not saying
much.

curious

May 13th, 2004, 04:19 PM

Nick,

I don't think that you need to eat the same thing 3x a day, but you could
eat the same thing for breakfast, lunch and dinner all week long. That way
you don't have to think about it.

The 1 same food wouldn't give you a well rounded diet.

For example...every day...
Breakfast...2 fried eggs and 2 pieces of bacon...or leave off the bacon (I
did, but my dh likes it, so he eats it).

Lunch....hamburger patty (pure meat mixed with egg if you like plus I add
garlic salt and Worcestershire sauce), with 2 of the following
veggies...steamed (nuked) broccoli and fried mushrooms, cauliflower, or
green beans. Vary every other day (if you don't want to think about
menus) with a chicken breast sprinkled with chicken seasoning mix fried in
olive oil. Yum. Don't overcook, and it will be juicy.

Dinner...dinner sized salad with 1 meat...either strips of chicken breast,
ham (NOT honey smoked), pepperoni, or polish sausage...lettuce, tomato,
cucumber, fresh mushrooms, olives, etc. with a little bit of salad
dressing as you like...how much you use can be determined by how many
"carbs" you have left for the day. Figure it up you will be set.

It worked for me...I've gone from 199 to 139.5 but I have to admit, while
I ate breakfast and dinner like this, I usually have skipped the supper
and just had an egg if I was hungry or my ice cream made out of whipping
cream, (but NOT on induction).

If you are hungry between meals, snack on some meat sticks, hunks of hard
cheese, boiled eggs, or raw cucumber or celery.

No caffeine, no sugar, no bread, pasta, potatoes or corn.

That's how simple it can be.

When you get tired of this food, you can vary your menus, but I know that
I could eat taco salad for 4 days in a row, without getting tired of it,
I'm reasonably sure.

Becky P.

revek

May 13th, 2004, 05:09 PM

The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then JC Der Koenig
proclaimed:

> This is not rocket surgery.

I prefer the old fashioned method of dealing with sick rockets.
--
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www.geocities.com/tanirevek/usefulfiles.html
A lady came up to me on the street, pointed at my suede jacket and
said, "Don't you know a cow was murdered for that jacket?" I said, "I
didn't know there were any witnesses. Now I'll have to kill you too".

DJ Delorie

May 13th, 2004, 05:29 PM

Stir fry some hamburger and green/red peppers in a big frying pan. Do
the math once, put in enough pepper to give you three days of veggies,
split it into nine servings. Also prepare nine one-ounce shredded
cheese packets, or, get an 8oz block of cheese, cut into 8-9 equal
parts, and shred/slice each later. For each meal, microwave one
serving with shredded cheese on top.

But in general, any meat/fish is calculation-free. You really can't
eat too much salad greens (lettuce, peppers, etc). So any combination
of those is pretty simple.

How about microwaved hot dogs and a cucumber? Canned ham, sliced
cheese, and a salad?

Tom

May 13th, 2004, 06:33 PM

Hi Nick. I don't count calories. Although, I did track what I ate for a
coupla' weeks out of curiosity. Protein and fat will satisfy your hunger by
normalizing blood glucose levels, but it is still possible to over eat. "How
you feel" should be your guide. If you eat the same amount every day and you
feel weak, then eat a little more until you don't feel that way between
meals, or add some nuts/cheese for snacks. You will be normally hungry for
your next meal, but not starving. High, and then low blood glucose from
eating starch/sugar is what I believe causes people to over eat. Meat and
salad veggies will eliminate the lows. A lot of my lunch meals were
leftovers from yesterday's supper. You can cook a roast easily in a crockpot
or roaster all day while at work at 275-300F and you will have lots of
leftovers for several days meals. Or cook several hamburger patties at once.
You can buy pre-made salad in large bags or make your own. I always boil 6
eggs at a time so that I always have a quick meal to go. Here is my basic
menu.
Breakfast
2-3 eggs boiled or fried
or 1/2 cup ricotta cheese

Lunch
Any unprocessed meat(usually last night's supper) and 1 cup of salad with
small amount of full fat dressing
or tuna/chicken with mayonnaise and broccoli / cauliflower on the side

Supper
Any unprocessed meat like beef, pork, fowl, sea food, and 2 cups salad and
small amount of full fat dressing

Snacks
1 ounce of cheddar, or small handful of mixed nuts, or scoop of peanut
butter, or homemade beef jerky, or 1 egg only if you can't make it to your
next meal

Other
water, green tea, coffee with cream

Do
- drink plenty of water
- exercise and increase activity level(walk to the store instead of driving,
stairs instead of elevator)
- take a multi vitamin
- stick to simple, natural foods
- make sure you get some fat with your protein
- all vegetables are eaten raw
- eat enough to satisfy hunger

Don't
- pasta, rice, potatoes, bread, sugar
- packaged food(even if it says low-carb)
- diet drinks
- artificial sweeteners

The will power you need is to stay away from starch and sugar while everyone
else around you are eating them. I never felt like I was starving so it was
easy for me to eat this way. I prefer simple meals because it is easy to
know what you are eating. The amount of steak or other meats that I ate was
not that much different than what I ate before. I just eliminated all the
starch and sugar foods which reduced my calorie intake. It felt odd to be
actually eating less than I use to, but more satisfied and in control of
hunger. I could never stop at a few potato chips or piece of chocolate or 1
donut. I always felt hungrier after, so I would eat even more. A piece of
cheese or some nuts or beef jerky helps me to snack without over eating.
Since eating the same foods doesn't bother you, I think you have a very good
chance to be successful. Everyone here has their own version of low-carb and
are doing it for different reasons. I found that this works for me. Others
may say that you can include some low carb bread, low carb packaged food,
artificial sweeteners for desserts and the like, but I have found that the
simpler the meals, the easier this diet is to follow. Some people are quite
successful at including a variety of foods or doing certain things their way
and this is not to knock their ways. It is easy to fall off of this way of
eating by believing you can do what they are doing. You have to find out
what works for you. If you can eat an Atkins nutritional bar without causing
serious affect, then go for it. I found for myself that it just doesn't work
for me. There are a lot of people where I work that have tried low-carb, but
I am one of the few that has not fallen off the wagon. I attribute this to
sticking sternly with the plan, eating what most say is a boring diet of
meat and vegetables. I am quite happy with the results that exercise and low
carb eating have done for me and intend to stick with this for life because
at 46 years old, I feel better and am in better shape than most guys half my
age. Hope this helps you with the basics and good luck.
Tom
210/180/180

"Nick" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> Atkins Induction phase?
>
> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
>
> The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> supplemented by water.
>
> I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> Induction on it then that would be great.
>
> Thats it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick

Saffire

May 13th, 2004, 07:14 PM

In article >, says...
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> Atkins Induction phase?
>
> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
>
> The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> supplemented by water.
>
> I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> Induction on it then that would be great.

That would not be Induction -- it would simply be an unhealthy fad/crash diet.

In a nutshell: Eat protein in the form of meat, fish, poultry, eggs. Make sure
you are getting enough fat. Eat vegetables (up to 20 carbs) in the form of
green, leafy vegetables. Avoid low-carb bars, shakes, etc. Take a vitamin
supplement. Use Lite Salt or No Salt to supplement potassium and avoid cramps.

--
Saffire
205/157/125 - 5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Priscilla H Ballou

May 13th, 2004, 07:39 PM

Mike > quoth:
>"Nick" > wrote in message
...
>> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
>> Atkins Induction phase?
>>
>> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
>> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?

>hmmm, one food? meat meat and meat

But of course that wouldn't be Atkins Induction.

Priscilla

The Queen of Cans and Jars

May 13th, 2004, 09:48 PM

JC Der Koenig > wrote:

> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
> ...
> > JC Der Koenig > wrote:
> >
> > > "The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
> > > .. .
> > > > Nick > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > > > > Atkins Induction phase?
> > > > >
> > > > > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to
> do
> > > > > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
> > > > >
> > > > > The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> > > > > supplemented by water.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> > > > > could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> > > > > Induction on it then that would be great.
> > > >
> > > > nope. doesn't work that way. you need to read the book, and you need
> > > > to do it right.
> > > >
> > > > or you can just stay fat.
> > > >
> > > > it's up to you.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I didn't read any book.
> >
> > you don't follow atkins; you do your own thing. Nick here is a) not too
> > bright and b) wanting to do induction. he clearly needs some guidance.
> > the book is as good a place to start as any.
>
> Many boxers are stupid.
>
> Many boxers have successfully followed a low carb diet without reading a
> book.
>
> Idiot OP should be able to do it too.
>
> Caveat: OP may be dumber than a boxer... but that's quite a stretch. There
> is evidence that he's at least as smart as some boxers because he was able
> to post a message to this newsgroup. And yes I know... that's not saying
> much.

dude wants to eat *one* kind of food for two weeks and thinks that's an
ok way to tackle weight loss.

my big toe is smarter than that, and so are you.

if some wants to follow a specific plan, which induction is, then they
need to educate themselves.

JC Der Koenig

May 13th, 2004, 10:12 PM

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
...
> JC Der Koenig > wrote:
>
> > "The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > JC Der Koenig > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in
message
> > > > .. .
> > > > > Nick > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > > > > > Atkins Induction phase?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having
to
> > do
> > > > > > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> > > > > > supplemented by water.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if
someone
> > > > > > could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> > > > > > Induction on it then that would be great.
> > > > >
> > > > > nope. doesn't work that way. you need to read the book, and you
need
> > > > > to do it right.
> > > > >
> > > > > or you can just stay fat.
> > > > >
> > > > > it's up to you.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I didn't read any book.
> > >
> > > you don't follow atkins; you do your own thing. Nick here is a) not
too
> > > bright and b) wanting to do induction. he clearly needs some
guidance.
> > > the book is as good a place to start as any.
> >
> > Many boxers are stupid.
> >
> > Many boxers have successfully followed a low carb diet without reading a
> > book.
> >
> > Idiot OP should be able to do it too.
> >
> > Caveat: OP may be dumber than a boxer... but that's quite a stretch.
There
> > is evidence that he's at least as smart as some boxers because he was
able
> > to post a message to this newsgroup. And yes I know... that's not saying
> > much.
>
> dude wants to eat *one* kind of food for two weeks and thinks that's an
> ok way to tackle weight loss.
>
> my big toe is smarter than that, and so are you.
>
> if some wants to follow a specific plan, which induction is, then they
> need to educate themselves.

Eating one kind of food is not necessarily a bad thing, for a short time. It
depends on the food though.

I have to agree that education could be beneficial.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

May 13th, 2004, 10:16 PM

JC Der Koenig > wrote:

> Eating one kind of food is not necessarily a bad thing, for a short time. It
> depends on the food though.

it is not, and never will be, a healthy way to achieve permanent weight
loss. people need to live in the real world.

> I have to agree that education could be beneficial.

always, and for everyone.

guitarprincess

May 13th, 2004, 10:33 PM

Stick to meats..not processed meats...lean meats and green vegetables...LOTS
of green vegetables. Romain lettuce, escarole, spinach...all of them you can
have as much of as you want. Fresh spinach is one you can eat raw in a salad
with hard boiled eggs and some oil and vinegar. You can also cook it as a
side dish to some chicken breasts. Sautee them in a pan or wok with some
garlic and olive oil....

GOOD STUFF!

--
Sheli

"Nick" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> Atkins Induction phase?
>
> All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
>
> The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
> supplemented by water.
>
> I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
> could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
> Induction on it then that would be great.
>
> Thats it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick

guitarprincess

May 13th, 2004, 10:35 PM

> dude wants to eat *one* kind of food for two weeks and thinks that's an
> ok way to tackle weight loss

Most of my diet consists of fresh spinach..either raw or cooked. Works for
me.

I have 100 ways to cook spinach !

--
Sheli

"JC Der Koenig" > wrote in

JC Der Koenig

May 13th, 2004, 10:55 PM

Healthy?

I'd love to see your definition.

--
There's a difference between an opinion and an informed point of view. For
some reason people always get them confused and think that whatever pops
into their head is worth sharing as part of a debate. -- MFW

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
...
> JC Der Koenig > wrote:
>
> > Eating one kind of food is not necessarily a bad thing, for a short
time. It
> > depends on the food though.
>
> it is not, and never will be, a healthy way to achieve permanent weight
> loss. people need to live in the real world.
>
> > I have to agree that education could be beneficial.
>
> always, and for everyone.

Roger Zoul

May 13th, 2004, 11:51 PM

baked chicken breast...

along with that, and one of these:

head of lettuce
head of cauliflower
broccoli stalks
bag of baby spinach...

for two weeks, you can survive on taht...

Or, you can sub grilled salmon for the chicken...

Nick wrote:
:: Hi,
::
:: Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
:: Atkins Induction phase?
::
:: All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to
:: do any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
::
:: The ideal would be one single food I can have 3 times a day
:: supplemented by water.
::
:: I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
:: could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
:: Induction on it then that would be great.
::
:: Thats it.
::
:: Thanks in advance.
::
:: Nick

Luna

May 14th, 2004, 12:06 AM

In article >,
"JC Der Koenig" > wrote:
>
> Eating one kind of food is not necessarily a bad thing, for a short time. It
> depends on the food though.
>
> I have to agree that education could be beneficial.
>
>

If one were to eat just one kind of food for two weeks, I wonder which one
it should be? I think I'd vote for eggs. Eggs are filling, cheap,
nutrient-dense, versatile, and easy to cook. If I'd tried that I'd probably
end up breaking the rule a bit though, because if I fry or scramble them I
need a bit of butter in the pan.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

JC Der Koenig

May 14th, 2004, 12:07 AM

"Luna" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "JC Der Koenig" > wrote:
> >
> > Eating one kind of food is not necessarily a bad thing, for a short
time. It
> > depends on the food though.
> >
> > I have to agree that education could be beneficial.
> >
> >
>
> If one were to eat just one kind of food for two weeks, I wonder which one
> it should be? I think I'd vote for eggs. Eggs are filling, cheap,
> nutrient-dense, versatile, and easy to cook. If I'd tried that I'd
probably
> end up breaking the rule a bit though, because if I fry or scramble them I
> need a bit of butter in the pan.
>
>

You hit it right on the head. I would choose eggs also.

Luna

May 14th, 2004, 12:19 AM

In article >,
"JC Der Koenig" > wrote:

> "Luna" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "JC Der Koenig" > wrote:
> > >
> > > Eating one kind of food is not necessarily a bad thing, for a short
> time. It
> > > depends on the food though.
> > >
> > > I have to agree that education could be beneficial.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > If one were to eat just one kind of food for two weeks, I wonder which one
> > it should be? I think I'd vote for eggs. Eggs are filling, cheap,
> > nutrient-dense, versatile, and easy to cook. If I'd tried that I'd
> probably
> > end up breaking the rule a bit though, because if I fry or scramble them I
> > need a bit of butter in the pan.
> >
> >
>
> You hit it right on the head. I would choose eggs also.
>
>

I eat eggs almost every day as it is. I get hardboiled ones at the Publix
deli on the way from working out to going to work. It would be cheaper to
bring them from home but they'd get manky sitting in my car, and they're
only 25 cents each at Publix. 50 cents for lunch ain't too shabby, and I
stay full for quite a while.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

PlacidBull

May 14th, 2004, 01:00 AM

Mike,

If you are looking for a very, very simple way ... you are not going to be
successful.

What this way of living requires is that you STOP what you were doing and
START doing the RIGHT things.

I can assure you that this can NOT be done without effort ... A LOT of
effort !!!

To BEGIN you need to start recording what you eat, EVERYTHING and what
QUANTITIES ... EXACTLY ... on www.fitday.com (it's free)

Then you will begin to see what your current eating habits are.

Your next step is to set up goals for a NEW WAY of eating.

I can distill that part down for you.

Eat only 10 times your current weight in calories.

Let 75% of those calories be from fat but let only 20% of those calories be
from saturated fat.(so that precludes eating tons of bacon).

Let 20% of your calories come from protein.

Let 5% of your calories come from carbohydrates ... only dark green
vegetables ... broccoli, spinach, etc.

Take your current weight and divide it by 2 ... that is how many ounces of
water you MUST drink each day ... if you say "I can't drink that much" ...
then just bend over and kiss your *ss goodbye because you are not going to
make it on this diet.

The SECRET of this diet is that protein curbs appetite ... and carbohydrates
make you hungry ... that's IT ... period.

You do not need to exercise for this approach to work. When you get within
10 pounds of your target weight ... or more correctly, your target BMI ...
then begin exercising.

If you eat the same thing everyday ... you have better odds of being
successful.

Finally .... many many people who post here ... don't know what the hell
they are talking about.

Good luck to you Mike. There is no EASY way. You must RETRAIN yourself into
a new way of living. That is not easy. What makes it easier is that this
approach makes you less hungry then anyother way I have found.

One final note: supplemental vitamins and minerals are very important ...
especially during induction .... I take the Atikins Basic 3 ... and
essential oils ... along with a few other things ... if you are interested
then email me .... placidbull at hotmail dot com.

I have told you all I know. If anyone disagrees with what I have said, they
are wrong! Ignore them!

Placid
203/147/149

"Mike" > wrote in message
...
> "Nick" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > Atkins Induction phase?
> >
> > All I'm looking for a food that I can use all day without having to do
> > any calculations,weighing,measuring/carb counting?
>
> hmmm, one food? meat meat and meat
>
>

JC Der Koenig

May 14th, 2004, 01:44 AM

Please quote more of the pertinent parts of the original messages.

Anyway... I already have a general definition of healthy for my personal
use.

But one more time... I'd love to see your definition.

Which part of that did you not understand?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
. ..
> JC Der Koenig > wrote:
>
> > Healthy?
> >
> > I'd love to see your definition.
>
> too stupid to figure it out for yourself?

guitarprincess

May 14th, 2004, 02:31 AM

>snip< Childish and annoying behavior by JC and the Queen

I feel like I'm at the dinner table when my kids are fighting.
:)

--
Sheli

Gunnloth

May 14th, 2004, 03:02 AM

Hey, I got a good laugh out of it. Thanks you two!

Regards,
Gunn

"guitarprincess" > wrote in message
.. .
> >snip< Childish and annoying behavior by JC and the Queen
>
>
> I feel like I'm at the dinner table when my kids are fighting.
> :)
>
> --
> Sheli
>
>

JC Der Koenig

May 14th, 2004, 03:14 AM

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" > wrote in message
...
>
> i understood it perfectly. which part of "i'm making fun of you" did
> *you* not understand?

;-)

SugarFreeSheila

May 14th, 2004, 06:44 AM

> I am very short on time and do not get bored by food so if someone
>could point to one source of food and say that I can complete
>Induction on it then that would be great.
>
> Thats it.

Read the book, Nick! THAT'S it.
Sheila
Size 10 to 2 in 5 months (since 2001), thanks to Atkins!
http://www.SugarFreeSheila.com - My Success Story, Extensive FAQ, & More!

Nick

May 14th, 2004, 09:52 AM

On Thu, 13 May 2004 13:48:05 +0100, Nick > wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
>Atkins Induction phase?
>
Notice the thread title under which I posted.
I am making it clear from the outset that my experience of low-carb is
limited..

I may be ignorant of low-carb culture that equates to lack of knowlege
and not lack of intelligence.

I have already read the book twice but wanted some opinion/experience
on completing induction wth the minimum of fuss and preparation.

To those who posted meaningful replies thank you.

Nick.

Cindy

May 14th, 2004, 09:57 AM

So you just want a sample menu plan for a week? If so is cost a factor?

"Nick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 May 2004 13:48:05 +0100, Nick > wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> >Atkins Induction phase?
> >
> Notice the thread title under which I posted.
> I am making it clear from the outset that my experience of low-carb is
> limited..
>
> I may be ignorant of low-carb culture that equates to lack of knowlege
> and not lack of intelligence.
>
> I have already read the book twice but wanted some opinion/experience
> on completing induction wth the minimum of fuss and preparation.
>
> To those who posted meaningful replies thank you.
>
> Nick.
>
>
>

Cindy

May 14th, 2004, 10:21 AM

If you don't want to cook much you can have the subway salads NOT THE ATKINS
ONES just have a steak and cheese sub made into a salad, stay away from the
pickles and use oil and vinegar for dressing, also double meat is only buck
extra. It's always good in a pinch or when you just don't feel like cooking.
Stay clear of anything wtih the atkins name on induction most either aren't
for induction or loaded with sugar alcohols. And untill you know how your
body reacts to SA steer clear on induction. (I've lost 80 lbs and never had
problems with sugar alcohols but everyone is differant)

If you dislike cooking when you do cook make large amounts so you can have
for left overs or freeze. Sample meals

Taco salad ,( use bag lettuce and cook a couple pounds of meat for later) it
takes a little looking but you can get taco seasoning with no sugar. top
with cheese fresh jalepenos.

Fajita salads buy a couple(you can use chicken ) large skirt steaks slice
long ways against the grain coat with some tony chacheres or other type of
creole seasoning (check label for sugar). throwin a skillet with a little
butter and brown .use about 1/4 of an onion, onions are high in carbs so
just enough for flavor, 1/2 of a bell pepper, a couple tablespoons rotel
tomato diced. add tomato at the end to de glaze pain. Lay on a bed of
lettuce with cheese.

Tuna salad 3 bioled eggs can of drained tuna in oil, teaspoon or so of
finely diced onions, mt olive sugar free pickle relish and a rib of celery
chopped. Add mayo ( i use dukes sugar free you can buy it online) You can
eat this straight from the bowl or wrapped in large pieces of lettuce.

Grilled steaks or hamburgers with a side of vegetables.

Grilled chicken with vegetables.

Good snacks boiled eggs , cheese, deviled eggs, raw veggies.

I season all my beef and chicken with a creole seasoning.

breakfast , omelets , fried or scrambled eggs bacon or sausage. I also like
to have left overs for breakfast.

> "Nick" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 13 May 2004 13:48:05 +0100, Nick > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend a very,very,very simple way of completing
> > >Atkins Induction phase?
> > >
> > Notice the thread title under which I posted.
> > I am making it clear from the outset that my experience of low-carb is
> > limited..
> >
> > I may be ignorant of low-carb culture that equates to lack of knowlege
> > and not lack of intelligence.
> >
> > I have already read the book twice but wanted some opinion/experience
> > on completing induction wth the minimum of fuss and preparation.
> >
> > To those who posted meaningful replies thank you.
> >
> > Nick.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Hannah Gruen

May 14th, 2004, 11:40 AM

"PlacidBull" > wrote in message news:E_Toc.9024
> If you are looking for a very, very simple way ... you are not going to be
> successful.

But it doesn't have to be nearly as complicated as you describe it,
PlacidBull, especially at first. I would join with others in suggesting the
OP read one of the Atkins books. There is a new paperback out, "Atkins
Essentials" that probably gives the gist of the program in a quick-to-read
format (I haven't read it however), or one of the Atkins New Diet Revolution
editions.

If the OP wants to "do Atkins", and it sounds like he does if he wants to do
induction, then you've given him a bunch of complicated stuff that is NOT
part of that program, however much you want to think it's necessary. Lots of
others have been successful without logging their calories and macronutrient
percentages. For a lot of people, even with FitDay, that's just way more
complex than they want or need, especially at the beginning stages of the
program. Maybe it worked for you, but it's NOT suggested by Atkins, and most
people don't do it.

Almost everyone can start with a rather simple process of just eating
very-low-carb foods, such as meat, poultry, fish, hard cheese, eggs plus a
salad for lunch (oil and vinegar or a low-carb commercial dressing), plus a
cooked low carb vegetable for dinner (such as broccoli, cauliflower, green
beans, see induction list for more). A couple tablespoons of heavy cream,
and low/no carb bevereges such as coffee, tea, artificially sweetened sodas
in moderation. Nearly everyone will lose weight eating like this, without
counting anything but carbs, unless they are very close to goal or
metabolically really messed up.

People usually start keeping better records of calorie and macronutrient
intake later on, when they get closer to goal or want to fine tune the
process in some way that they feel will improve health or increase rate of
loss. And that's fine, but it is probably counterproductive for most people
to do this at first, although some anal-retentive or analytical types may
enjoy doing so. YMMV as always. But you shouldn't be insisting a newbie do
this, and I don't understand why you would. That's just dumb. Perhaps you
are one of those who pictures the world and those in it based solely on
their own experiences and preferences?

HG

curious

May 14th, 2004, 03:18 PM

Hannah said,
"Almost everyone can start with a rather simple process of just eating
very-low-carb foods, such as meat, poultry, fish, hard cheese, eggs plus
a
salad for lunch (oil and vinegar or a low-carb commercial dressing), plus
a
cooked low carb vegetable for dinner (such as broccoli, cauliflower,
green
beans, see induction list for more). A couple tablespoons of heavy cream,
and low/no carb bevereges such as coffee, tea, artificially sweetened
sodas
in moderation. Nearly everyone will lose weight eating like this, without
counting anything but carbs, unless they are very close to goal or
metabolically really messed up."
----
Becky says,
I agree 100% with you, Hannah. I've gone from 199 to 139.5 and while
these last 13 lbs have been slow, I've not counted anything on fitday
yet...but am somewhat open to the idea if I need to...if I quit losing.
But, common sense took over and I quit eating the whipping cream ice cream
(yum!) I made because I am positive cream is high in calories and am
making decent progress again.

:)

Becky P.
199/139.5/135

Hannah Gruen

May 14th, 2004, 05:33 PM

"curious" <curious@noemailshown> wrote in message

> I agree 100% with you, Hannah. I've gone from 199 to 139.5 and while
> these last 13 lbs have been slow, I've not counted anything on fitday
> yet...but am somewhat open to the idea if I need to...if I quit losing.
> But, common sense took over and I quit eating the whipping cream ice cream
> (yum!) I made because I am positive cream is high in calories and am
> making decent progress again.

Yes, it is a good exercise, once you're pretty well established on your
low-carb WOE, to log you intake on Fitday or something similar, just to get
an idea of where the calories, fat, etc. are. Even awareness helps somewhat.
The difference, for instance, between a dinner of all-beef chili topped with
cheese, and one consisting of a chicken breast and asparagus or a salad. And
of course when your weight loss slows down, someone may need to log
everything and stick to a caloric limit in order to lose the last pounds.

HG

jamie

May 14th, 2004, 07:59 PM

Luna > wrote:
> If one were to eat just one kind of food for two weeks, I wonder which one
> it should be? I think I'd vote for eggs. Eggs are filling, cheap,
> nutrient-dense, versatile, and easy to cook. If I'd tried that I'd probably
> end up breaking the rule a bit though, because if I fry or scramble them I
> need a bit of butter in the pan.

Some kind of omelet or quiche with veggies and cheese might sort of fit
the definition of the request for "one food." I couldn't eat one dish
for two days, though, much less two weeks.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

jamie

May 14th, 2004, 08:02 PM

Roger Zoul > wrote:
> baked chicken breast...
>
> along with that, and one of these:
>
> head of lettuce
> head of cauliflower
> broccoli stalks
> bag of baby spinach...
>
> for two weeks, you can survive on taht...

Unless you're including skin and salad dressing, sounds too low in fat
content, particularly for Induction.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

Roger Zoul

May 14th, 2004, 08:27 PM

jamie wrote:
:: Roger Zoul > wrote:
::: baked chicken breast...
:::
::: along with that, and one of these:
:::
::: head of lettuce
::: head of cauliflower
::: broccoli stalks
::: bag of baby spinach...
:::
::: for two weeks, you can survive on taht...
::
:: Unless you're including skin and salad dressing, sounds too low in
:: fat content, particularly for Induction.

Good point. Of course, I eat those veggies with ranch so the assumption of
dressing is built into my thinking, sadly. Also, I was offering up two
foods, I'm not sure but I thought the OP said one thing to eat -- maybe that
could mean one meal that s/he could eat all the time while on induction.

Luna

May 15th, 2004, 02:40 AM

In article >,
"Roger Zoul" > wrote:

> jamie wrote:
> :: Roger Zoul > wrote:
> ::: baked chicken breast...
> :::
> ::: along with that, and one of these:
> :::
> ::: head of lettuce
> ::: head of cauliflower
> ::: broccoli stalks
> ::: bag of baby spinach...
> :::
> ::: for two weeks, you can survive on taht...
> ::
> :: Unless you're including skin and salad dressing, sounds too low in
> :: fat content, particularly for Induction.
>
> Good point. Of course, I eat those veggies with ranch so the assumption of
> dressing is built into my thinking, sadly. Also, I was offering up two
> foods, I'm not sure but I thought the OP said one thing to eat -- maybe that
> could mean one meal that s/he could eat all the time while on induction.
>
>

Oh, if the rule is one meal, make a big ol' stir fry with brocolli,
spinach, beef, chicken, and shrimp, cook it in olive oil and seasonings and
you're good to go.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Martin Golding

May 15th, 2004, 03:42 AM

On Thu, 13 May 2004 21:35:19 +0000, guitarprincess wrote:

>> dude wants to eat *one* kind of food for two weeks and thinks that's an
>> ok way to tackle weight loss
>
> Most of my diet consists of fresh spinach..either raw or cooked. Works for
> me.
> I have 100 ways to cook spinach !

Spinach interferes with absorption of calcium. Presumably you're taking
a vitamin supplement with ample amounts of vitamin D. Most people get
enough from fortified dairy products, but presumably, low-carbing blocks
you from that source.

I knew somebody who got rickets from too much spinach, due to her dad's
access to unprocessed (therefore unfortified) dairy.

Martin (215/165/165 since 4/2003)
--
Martin Golding Salad isn't _food_, salad is what food _eats_.
KotLQ KotSM SMTC #2 member PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)

Jackie Patti

May 15th, 2004, 07:33 AM

Luna wrote:

> Oh, if the rule is one meal, make a big ol' stir fry with brocolli,
> spinach, beef, chicken, and shrimp, cook it in olive oil and seasonings and
> you're good to go.

I'd agree with that, even moreso if "seasonings" includes freshly
chopped ginger and garlic.

I could eat this every day for the rest of my life. I just love stirfry.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

Mosaic M_uns

May 15th, 2004, 08:31 AM

On Sat, 15 May 2004 01:40:25 GMT, Luna
> wrote:

>Michelle Levin
>http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick/photos/bowling.html

Somebody is looking kinda hot these days.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Luna

May 15th, 2004, 01:18 PM

In article >,
Mosaic M_uns > wrote:

> On Sat, 15 May 2004 01:40:25 GMT, Luna
> > wrote:
>
> >Michelle Levin
> >http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick/photos/bowling.html
>
> Somebody is looking kinda hot these days.
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
> Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Lol, thanks! Getting there anyways. I think I'm in the "cute" range now,
It's still another 20 pounds or so 'til "hot."

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

guitarprincess

May 15th, 2004, 02:31 PM

I eat spinach often but not in HUGE quantities. How much are you talking
about here? :)

I take a calcium supplement because I have steroid-induced osteoperosis.

--
Sheli

"Martin Golding" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 May 2004 21:35:19 +0000, guitarprincess wrote:
>
> >> dude wants to eat *one* kind of food for two weeks and thinks that's an
> >> ok way to tackle weight loss
> >
> > Most of my diet consists of fresh spinach..either raw or cooked. Works
for
> > me.
> > I have 100 ways to cook spinach !
>
> Spinach interferes with absorption of calcium. Presumably you're taking
> a vitamin supplement with ample amounts of vitamin D. Most people get
> enough from fortified dairy products, but presumably, low-carbing blocks
> you from that source.
>
> I knew somebody who got rickets from too much spinach, due to her dad's
> access to unprocessed (therefore unfortified) dairy.
>
>
> Martin (215/165/165 since 4/2003)
> --
> Martin Golding Salad isn't _food_, salad is what food _eats_.
> KotLQ KotSM SMTC #2 member PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)
>

guitarprincess

May 15th, 2004, 02:33 PM

>I'd agree with that, even moreso if "seasonings" includes freshly
> chopped ginger and garlic.
>
> I could eat this every day for the rest of my life. I just love stirfry.

Amen Jackie! That's what I made Thursday Night. I could live on fresh
stirfry with ginger and garlic..wait..I think I almost do. Hehe

--
Sheli

"
>
>>
> --
>

guitarprincess

May 15th, 2004, 02:35 PM

>Lol, thanks! Getting there anyways. I think I'm in the "cute" range now,
It's still another 20 pounds or so 'til "hot."

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

Thank God for the cute phase Luna!!!!! That's all I gotta say. I want to be
hot again! :)

--
Sheli

"Luna" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Mosaic M_uns > wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 15 May 2004 01:40:25 GMT, Luna
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >Michelle Levin
> > >http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
> >
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick/photos/bowling.html
> >
> > Somebody is looking kinda hot these days.
> > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
> > Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
>
> Lol, thanks! Getting there anyways. I think I'm in the "cute" range now,
> It's still another 20 pounds or so 'til "hot."
>
> --
> Michelle Levin
> http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
>
> I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.